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The Standard of Balance from the HE AB states that it gives Immunity to Psychology and removes Hatred and Frenzy from unit the standard is in, as well as affecting enemy units that are in base contact with "it". It is not clear to me whether "it" refers to the unit the standard bearer is in or the just the standard itself, i.e. the standard bearer.
So the question is, does the Standard of Balance remove Hatred and Frenzy from an enemy unit that is in base contact with the unit the standard bearer is in, even if the enemy unit is not in base contact with the standard bearer itself?
Assuming you reproduced the rule the same way it's put together in the book =):
Who does the affecting, the banner or the unit? The banner does the affecting, so the banner is the antecedent of 'it.' Same conclusion comes from the parallel structure of the sentence. 'X does A as well as doing B to people touching it.' The second independent clause wouldn't have a pronoun with an antecedent that can be dropped from the statement and otherwise still make sense.
I should have included the exact wording from the AB since evidently I didn't remember it verbatim:(emphasis mine)The unit carrying the Standard of Balance, and any enemy unit in based contact with it, is immune to psychology. In addition, they also lose hatred and frenzy abilities ...
Unfortunately the exact wording is completely passive so it is still not clear what is doing the affecting. It's an effect that just happens when the unit is carrying the standard.
I was hoping there might be a precedent regarding magic banners in general and enemies in base contact, but there doesn't seem to be one.
How do other people play it?
"it"= the unit that owns the banner.
Any enemies in base contact with the owning unit become ItP (they do anyways, so no big loss), and lose Frenzy and Hatred (GW has a vendetta against DEs methinks), as does the unit that has the banner.
I'm fairly sure that in this case "it" refers to the unit which carries the banner rather than just the standard bearer, so it will affect any model in base contact with the unit.
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The unit, not the standard bearer, it'd be silly otherwise, and provided that your wording is that of the book, the fact that it is talking about the unit and then says in the same sentence "IT" would make me believe that it is refering to the unit.... it'd be kindove slack if the banner didnt work if you got flanked charged....
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I realise that this is an old thread but I have 2 questions about the standard of balance.
I was just wondering how Standard of Balance interacted with WoC Banner of Rage, which means you never lose frenzy (I don't have warriors of chaos book so don't know specific wording).
My take is that you are immune to frenzy so whether you are frenzied or not is irrelevant you no longer feel it's effects. If I am immune to a cold it doesn't matter if I have the virus or not is what I base this on.
Also if you hate the bearer of the standard normally and the standard flees do you have to pursue it?
On this we play no you don't have to pursue, although the effects of the hatred are felt since the banner is no longer in contact it seems wrong to lose the benefit (rerolls) but retain the disadvantage (forced pursuit).
Thanks in advance for your help.
My tuppence....You have not lost frenzy when you are engaged with a unit carrying Standard of Balance, you only lose frenzy if you lose a combat. So the warriors will not have frenzy, but unless they lose the combat, the effects of the standard would not come into play (once the current combat is over)
As for fleeing - when a unit carrying a standard flees, it loses teh stadnard, and as such the rules for hatred should take precedence at that point...
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