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Ok now obviously WoC does not enjoy the lore of metal being used against it. My question is about spells 1 and 6. The ones that have the strength based on the model's armor save. If you are targeted by that spell can you opt to lower your save by not counting your shield for the purposes of the spells strength? Just say that you put your shield on your back right before the spell hit the unit kinda thing.
If you did this would it have to be something that would have to stay for the whole turn. I know you are stuck with your chosen weapon combo if you enter a combat until the combat ends but what about this situation with running across the board for the magic and shooting phases?
You'd have to take it as, Warriors with a shield have a 3+ save. Its not the fact that you can choose to not be holding it. It's the fact that the metal is melting ON you. So sticking it on your back is only going to give you a warm (if not toasty) back.
Well thats the way i'd see if anyway.
I think you should have to take the save with the shield. In the BRB, your armor save is clearly stated to be +1 better when you have a shield. We also count the shield when magic missiles hit us, and we benefit from it. When we have to suffer for it, well, we can't just say: I'm a chaos player so I should never be disadvantaged by my armor save. If you're sure that your opponent is going to have 2 lvl4 metal mage, just replace your chaos warriors by Forsaken
"How do you stop a Chaos Knight from charging? No seriously, HELP!" André le Bouffon, jester of the Bretonnian court - last words.
can't drop your shield, just like you can't dismount from your chaos steeds.
Its the total maximum unmodified armour save the model could possibly get when not in combat that is used for these spells. If the model has chaos armour and a shield then the +3 save is used for the purposes of the spell, you do not include the +1 to the save for having a HW and a Shield as this only applies to combat.
If the model has a Halberd/Additional Handweapon/Great Weapon as well as having a shield then the model still counts the maximum armour save they could have as they can still use the handweapon they come with as standard and the shield instead of the Halberd/Additional Handweapon/Great Weapon so you would still use the 3+ save.
Apply the same reasoning to marauders as well.
I hope this helps.
Last edited by Jared van Kell; February 27th, 2009 at 16:02.
aight that makes sense. My idea was probably a bit out there but you never know what will work in this game. Thanks for the responses
You are welcome.