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For my dwarf lord, i give him certain runes. Do i have to tell my opponent them or not? Does it make a different to mundane items, i.e. great weapons.
You only have to tell your opponent what magic items you have when you use them.
Normal equipment such as missile weapons, shields, great weapons etc. should be on the model.
(Similarly DE assassins or NG fanatics and similar 'surprises' remain secret until revealed by the owning player. Some magic items can reveal them, however)
Having an army and not owning a rulebook is like owning a car with no steering wheel.Originally Posted by amishcellphone
Typically, you don't have to do this. In friendly games, it's a 50/50 thing. Sometimes we do, sometimes we don't. I do require that my friends be able to prove that they have the items that they do. My friend has a great memory (he doesn't cheat, but he could) and he writes down the points only, remembering the name of the unit and it's equipment without fail. But I even try to get him to mark down what he has, just so I have record that he's not changing his gear mid-game.
In tournaments, some tournaments require you to have 2 copies of your army list, or are "open list". This lets your opponent see the builds which you are using. Because of this rule, most of my friendly games have also become open list, since we try to replicate a tournament environment as much as possible.
Finally, you must tell ALL mundane gear. In 40k, this is known as WYSiWYG, meaning that all gear on the model must be represented for what it is. In fantasy, it's understandably a little harder to distinguish between heavy armor and gromril, or heavy armor and fullplate, etc. Therefore, you need to tell your opponent that yes, he has a greatweapon, heavy armor, and a crossbow, etc. Some players argue that you only need to tell somebody once, although I make a habit of kindly reminding them all the time. It's just the difference between a gamer and a good sport.
You don't need to tell them what kind of magic gear you have until it comes up. That's why there are specific items and the like that reveal what magic gear they have. If you told everybody what everything has, they would play different. They won't charge your cannon that can blow up with a rune and they won't challenge your lord with that beefed up armor they can't penetrate. It basically ruins the whole point of taking those items in the first place.
I always play agains friends and most of the tome we let each other know what kind of magic items each other has, and how those items work. it's not really an advantage cause you can't change you list anymore, and your battleplan wil most likely be set. in a tournament environment however do i understand you really want to surprise you opponent
but how do you do this in friendly games?? show each other ths list but do not tell how it works? i think you should be able to know their total amount of units and stuff.. right?
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i would really not like it if my opponent wants to know what special items i use, especially because i love using selfdestruct gear and surprises.
How lame would it be if your oppnent knows he has to face just one more dispell scroll?
i have an armylist present but he wont see it unitl the battle is over. If he needs proof of something theres allways a third person available who could see your list. (Just dont ring at your neighbour if its past midnight)
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In friendly and tournament games I'll often show my opponent my army list minus the magic items names. Oftentimes in friendly games they have a pretty good idea of what I am carrying due to experience anyway.
I havent changed my Dwarf list for about 5 months now... people are starting to learn that my Lord WILL live unless hit by ignoring armour save weapons. (MRoSteel + RoResistance... LOVE IT)
Current painting project: 2300 pts of Dwarfs in 5 weeks.
I always tell my opponent about any magic banners i have, since it would be obvious for a battlefield observer. Other magic items such as weapons, armour and trinkets is left as a nice surprise.
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