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    A couple questions

    1. If I had a mage join a unit of Phoenix Guard, would their ward save confer to him. I've seen it played so (and would like it to be so), but I can't find any thing in the book that says it happens.

    2. Do unit Champions count as characters for the purpose of spells? Such as Bears Anger. It doesn't seem so to me, but figured I'd ask?

    3. If you overrun a unit, and end up hitting an enemy unit that causes fear, what happens? Do you have to take a Fear test? If so and you fail, does the overcharge even happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djones9916 View Post
    1. If I had a mage join a unit of Phoenix Guard, would their ward save confer to him. I've seen it played so (and would like it to be so), but I can't find any thing in the book that says it happens.

    I don't have access to a high elf book at the moment, but I wouldn't think so. I don't think the unit as a whole is protected by the ward save, but it's an ability that each member or the unit has. As the character is not a Phoenix Guard they wouldn't get it.

    2. Do unit Champions count as characters for the purpose of spells? Such as Bears Anger. It doesn't seem so to me, but figured I'd ask?

    Nope. They are not characters, although in some instances they do act as one. These specific instances are mentioned in the rulebook.

    3. If you overrun a unit, and end up hitting an enemy unit that causes fear, what happens? Do you have to take a Fear test? If so and you fail, does the overcharge even happen?
    Nope! Overrun is considered a pursuit move and pursuing troops never have to take fear or terror tests. They are so excited by their victory they are ready to take on anything!
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    High elf bestiary states phoenix guard each have a 4+ ward save. nothing about giving their save to anycharacters joining the unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djones9916 View Post
    1. If I had a mage join a unit of Phoenix Guard, would their ward save confer to him. I've seen it played so (and would like it to be so), but I can't find any thing in the book that says it happens.

    nope, the ward save is not passed to the mage. your friend may be getting confused with the rules in regards to shared psycology in a unit, they share their immunity to fear with him but nothing else

    2. Do unit Champions count as characters for the purpose of spells? Such as Bears Anger. It doesn't seem so to me, but figured I'd ask?

    sadly no, champions are not characters

    3. If you overrun a unit, and end up hitting an enemy unit that causes fear, what happens? Do you have to take a Fear test? If so and you fail, does the overcharge even happen?

    nope, its a pursuit roll and as such the unit need not make any test
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