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If a Character and/or a Monster starts the game being able to take multible wounds like 5,6,or7 wounds and at the end of the game they are not dead, but they have more that half of them as wounds, like 3of5, 4of6 or 4of7 do you get half of the VP points like you would a unit or do you have to kill it to any get any points at all. :huh:
Characters and monsters have to be completely dead or fleeing to get any VPs from them (I think this applies to war machines and their crews too). You only get half VPs for half strength units. I think this is all correct, my opponents and I rarely bother with victory points, generally whoever gets annihilated loses!
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I'm not exactly sure, but when my friends and I play, we always say that if anything (unit or character) is more than half dead, then you get half of its victory points. If you kill all of it, then obviously you get all of it.
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Yeah, aufde and Tzeentchlord are right. For characters and/or monsters, you get either zero, half, or full VPs depending on wounds remaining.
Sorry guys I'm soooo confused. Tzeentch you say all or nothing, aufde and David VC04 you say VP for half Characters and Monters. :confused:
I tried to look it up last night in the rule book but I couldn't find it. I'll amit I didn't try very hard, because I didn't have much time. I'll try to find it again tonight and post it if no one answers today. ^_^
It's rather simple. Here's an example:
My Vampire Lord has an amazing 16 wounds! And, to top that, he cost a whopping 2000 points!
In our first game, you toss your entire army at him and manage to drop him to 3 wounds, but only after he demolished almost all of your forces, except for two dwarfs manning a bolt thrower. For this feat, you receive 1000 VPs. Just as if you had taken a unit of 30 skeletons down to, say, 12 skeletons, for which you would receive half VPs.
In our next game, you toss your entire army at my uber-vampire and by fudging your army list a few more models find their way onto the table. This time you vanquish my unholy terror, for which you receive all 2000 VPs. Just as if you had totallly annhilated a unit of 30 skeletons, for which you would receive full VPs.
If I switch tactics and armies and field a giant with a less impressive six wounds, you must take him to three or fewer wounds (half or less) to receive half VPs. If you kill him outright, you receive full VPs.
So the lesson learned is that characters and monsters follow the same rules as any other unit. The difference is that you look at starting and ending wounds instead of starting and ending models.
If you have a character riding a monster, then I'm a little unsure. But after a little reflection, this is what I've come to. The rules state that attacks can be allocated against either the monster or its rider. Therefore, VPs would be calculated separately for each as demonstrated above.
Hope that clarified things for you.
Yes that helps. That is what I was thinking, but I wanted to make sure.
Er... slight edit to the posts above. When reduced to half wounds/models, you receive NO points for that character/unit. You must reduce them to below half strength to get half points for them; and as said, full points if they are completely wiped out/slain. So most heroes (2 wounds) will either give full points or no points at all, except Nurgle and a few other, beefier heroes.Your assumption is correct, DavidVC04. Only mounts with more than wound though are counted for this (monster mounts), as they can be targetted separately. Horses, cold ones, etc. are included with the character.If you have a character riding a monster, then I'm a little unsure. But after a little reflection, this is what I've come to. The rules state that attacks can be allocated against either the monster or its rider. Therefore, VPs would be calculated separately for each as demonstrated above.
The half strength versus below half strength is a 40k versus WHFB thing. In 40k, you do get half points for half models/wounds.
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Hmm. I'm not so sure about that. Do you know where I can look it up?