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    armour asves

    say if a model had light armour, hand weapons and shield would it have a 4+ save? because shield and light armour is a 5+ save and having hand weapon and shield is +1 to it , so would it make a 4+ save?


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    Only in close combat. The extra save by using a HW and Shield can only be claimed in combat, but yes you are correct. In combat you'd have a 4+ save and out of it you would be reduced to a 5+ save.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaverRider
    say if a model had light armour, hand weapons and shield would it have a 4+ save? because shield and light armour is a 5+ save and having hand weapon and shield is +1 to it , so would it make a 4+ save?
    You cannot benefit from the sheild save bonus twice!
    You would have a 6+ save outside of CC and a 5+ save inside CC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chosen_Of_Ahriman
    You cannot benefit from the sheild save bonus twice!
    You would have a 6+ save outside of CC and a 5+ save inside CC
    Didn't you read what King Ulrik just wrote?!

    We're not talking about benefitting from the shield twice, and I'm not even sure what you're on about, if a model had light armour and shield, he'd get at least 5+ save whether he was engaged in combat or not. And if you're on about a model with just a hand weapon and shield, yes you'd be right there, but ReaverRider was talking about a model that also has light armour.

    To save explaining all this again, please read this post (Hand Weapons saves) ReaverRider and Ahriman, it should clear things up for both of you.
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    Light armour=+1 save
    Shield=+1 save
    Hand weapon and shield=+1 ONLY IN CC
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    I have another question related to this. Do you only receive the +1 bonus for having a Hand Weapon, or can it be a Spear, or any other one handed weapon.

    i.e: Spear, Light Armour, Hand Weapon, and Shield. In CC I choose to fight with spears. Is my save 4+, or 5+?

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    No Pierced53, to claim the additional bonus for having a hand weapon and shield, it must be an actual, mundane, Hand Weapon. Not a spear or anything else than happens to be one handed.
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