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    A very odd question

    I used to play Fantasy back in (I think) 3rd edition, nearly 10 years ago. After dropping out of it I found out some of my Friends played 40k and so picked that up. Now there's been some discussion in our group of giving Fantasy a try once the new edition comes out, but one of the principle guys (upon which the whole thing depends) is starting to waver.

    I was wondering about doing a bit of a mock game with him, just to give him a feel for what Fantasy is like (and hopefully get him excited about it). I have my old Lizardmen and Chaos Army books (first Lizardmen book, and I believe the first Chaos book to come in a box) and access to a 6th edition rule book.

    The question is, are these old army books and the 6th Edition rule book at all compatible? At least enough to run a single game? Thanks.

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    No, they are no longer compatible. There are new offical rules out for the lizardmen and chaos, I've seen the third edition Lizardmen rules, and they are pretty old (You have a relic Lizardmen codex my friend :yes: ). Your best bet is to pick up a new Lizardmen codex if you ever plan to play in any tournaments.

    If you want to get that nice feel of 6th edition warhammer, just go to your local gaming store and watch a battle or tournament.

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    Yeah, I know there's been at least one new version of each, I was hoping to be able to scratch together enough rules for a sort of "franken-game" to help my group decide if we'd be starting up Fantasy armies at all (and hence, if it was wortwhile spending money on the updated rule books). However, it's sounding like that won't be possible... Sigh, thanks.
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    Honestly, to the best of my knowledge even the 5th ed army books (or whatever they had back then) are incompatible with 6th ed.

    --ignore the stats in the rulebook.
    --ignore Ravening Hordes (unless you feel like chaos dwarves).
    --New armies include Tomb Kings (the "mummies" from VC, who can no longer take any khemrian stuff) and Ogre kingdoms (all ogre army) at least.
    --Dwarves have 2 army books for 6th ed. http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefr...003&orignav=13 Thats the newer one.
    --Chaos takes up two army books: Hordes of Chaos and Beasts of Chaos.

    Thats everything I know, really. I never played before 6th ed.
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    Why not go by the GW site and download the rules for the Dogs of War? You can print them off, and basically use whatever miniatures you have to fill for your troops. They are 6th edition compatable, and honestly fairly basic, so you'd have a good idea of how to give a tutorial.

    I hope this helps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishra
    Why not go by the GW site and download the rules for the Dogs of War? You can print them off, and basically use whatever miniatures you have to fill for your troops. They are 6th edition compatable, and honestly fairly basic, so you'd have a good idea of how to give a tutorial.

    I hope this helps!

    Hmm, that's not a bad idea... I have to complete 2k-3k point armies (at least, the lizardmen one used to be complete) so I was sort of hoping to use them, but this sounds far more workable. Thanks.
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    Thjey are not that incompatiablr are they? (not when compard to 2nd edition WH40K and later editions of WH40K) many of the rules ar pretty similar especially if it is only a mock battle to get a rough feel for the game. Meh haven't played the old edition in a while might crack it out and give it ago
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    Yeah, the ones you can download from the GW site were updated in a White Dwarf by Alessio (sp?) for use with the current rules set. Now I'm not gonna hold my breath that they're still gonna be usable in August, but <shrug> they'll hold you over til then at least to get your feet wet.

    Glad I could help bring more players into the fold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by destp
    I was hoping to be able to scratch together enough rules for a sort of "franken-game" to help my group decide if we'd be starting up Fantasy armies at all
    Well here, http://uk.games-workshop.com/chronicles/reference/1/

    If you just want enough stats just to play a game then download those form there.
    There are special rules for them, and you won't be able to use them without the codex.

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    Hmm... Good idea with the reference sheets. Figure we can coble together enough with those and what's stayed the same from early versions (Scaly Skin, Cold Blooded, etc.). Thanks.
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