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Sorry if this has been posted before, if I didn't look hard enough, if it's the wrong forum go ahead an move it, but since it involved vc I thought I would post it here. I was looking through books when I saw that a Blood Dragon Lord/Count with full plate, enchanted shield, wailing helm, and riding a nightmare with barding could have a -1+ armor save, albeit not leaving many points for other magic stuff. Now I know this is possible and supported in the rulebook, but try as I might I couldn't find another race that could get an armor save below 0+. If this is VC only thats pretty darn cool, I just wanted to know if it was .
Oh no, tool around the Dwarf forum. Wait until you encounter one of those little buggers with a zero or negative armor save AND a ward save. It's disgusting.
And I feel pretty certain other races can pull it off, too. Surely Chaos can whip up a pretty impressive armor save.
But I never thought about that for a Blood Dragon. Pretty cool. Until someone who ignores armor saves gets a hold of him, that is.
Yea I just tried briefly in army builder and didn't come up with anything, I guess if I read the books like I have VC it would be easier to see, I think the lowest i could see with dwarves was +1, I'll hafta check the dwarf forums out, although with what I put up you could give him the crown of the damned or wristbands of black gold too.
Alright thanks for that, sure its cheaper, but it looks like a vamp lord would still beat the snot out of him .
Edit: Well maybe not with hammer of judgement or sword of fate
Saurus Oldblood or Scar-Veteran having: Blessing of Quetzl, Enchanted Shield, Lt. Armor on a cold one. That makes -1.
I was under the impression that while negative saves are possible, the absolute best save a model could have would be a 1+.
no negative saves are possible, but rememeber you always have to roll for an armoursave since A 1 ALWAYS FAILS!!!!
Cool, thanks guys
Yes, but with high strength things that can give the like of -3 AS, having 1+ AS will go down to 4+, but a -1 AS will go down to 2+. All these minuses are confusing. I think that Dwarfs have the best AS possible, could someone else please confirm this or the opposite.Originally Posted by MobiusPrime
"Well... that hurt" - Vampire Jon Skellan (Mannfred's right hand man) after being beaten up, falling down an underground waterfall and being impaled by a stalactite.