View Full Version : Tale of Painters - Yes? No? King Ulrik Flamebeard September 12th, 2007, 22:48 Yesterday I was bored and I wandered onto Warseer and saw this: "Tale of Painters". It is how it sounds, like the White Dwarf "Tale of X Gamers" and is basically you enrol and each month you paint a specified amount with the ultimate aim of having a fully painted army by the end.
A hefty task I know. I saw a great thread with a bloody good writeup backing it up. I have one thing to say, would you, as members of LO be interested in this?
My idea is that we plan for a 2000pt army, doing 200pts each month for a year. It would of course be open to both Fantasy and 40k players/armies; and I'm aware that 2000pts is sort of large for a 40k army but gives you plenty of options to play with.
This thread is just something to see how much interest such a thing would generate - ie how many would be interested. Any questions can be asked here or via PM or even email (see sig).
This is just an idea, not an actual plan.
KU hero September 13th, 2007, 02:37 i would love to do that . Stormchaser September 13th, 2007, 02:56 I'd love to get involved, but due to me bing poor, I can't afford 200 points of IG every month:0
If you're doing it on a price thing, then that'd work better for some people 8Y plus it encourages people to do (more) direct ordering :)
Just my two pennies XenomarinesKiller September 13th, 2007, 03:00 I'll do it, but i guarantee I'll drop out or end up doing base colors and a wash on the troops. IG, that's what I'm talking about. CaptainSarathai September 13th, 2007, 03:04 Okay, honestly, I'd do this- since I'm running an escalation league with my friends and have been painting about 250pts per month. But my question is: what's the benefit to joining? We mean, we can already post pics of our minis as we finish them, and it's really just forcing a set 'pace' on our painting.
I'm not a prize mongerer, I'm just wondering what the point is. 'Tale of 6 Gamers' was an escalation campaign. It's where the idea came from. What's the point of 'Tale of 300 LO Painters'?
Even with an objective, what's stopping us from posting pics of models we've already done and saying "look what i did this month"? XenomarinesKiller September 13th, 2007, 03:39 pressure helps people. if i think i need to have models assembled or painted for a casual game, i'll sit down for a few hours and assemble the models i need. Aether-Moose September 13th, 2007, 03:50 This sounds exactly like the motivation I need! I've been slowly (SLOOOWLY) building and painting a CSM army for the release of the new Codex, but have been going at a snail's pace. THe only problem for me is procuring a Digital Camera... as both parents seem to have lost theirs. Sign me up if it's happening! Killswitch September 13th, 2007, 04:47 Count me in. I'd actually get my chaos done then.
That and the fact I just stumbled onto some money...selling my homecoming ticket because my date fell through... so that's gonna be like an extra $30, and my paycheck comes in soon.
-J _Toast_ September 13th, 2007, 04:59 Count me in. I'd actually get my chaos done then.
That and the fact I just stumbled onto some money...selling my homecoming ticket because my date fell through... so that's gonna be like an extra $30, and my paycheck comes in soon.
-J
ouch, sucks about the date thing... id be in to, got nothing better to do...maybe it could have some kind of vote/reward thing...i.e. first one to finish gets a metaphorical cookie or something, or if you finish, the favorite ones get chosen out, and you become ruler of said month if your on top...just brainstorming here....Its easy to let a project log fall through, but if there is competion for a metaphorical cookie... Ira September 13th, 2007, 05:14 2000 thousand points is large?! Apocalypse is on the horizon my friend! soon, you can buy 2000+ points in a single box!! (there is no sarcasm smiley)
i would probally participate in this, its about the rate i am painting my WFT orc army. 1 model away from my first unit of savage orcs, and its been a month and a half. Cyric the Mad September 13th, 2007, 05:45 mmm... metaphorical cookies with hypothetical chocolate chips.
I'd be willing to give it a shot. Anything to motivate my lazy self. Deadstar_MRC September 13th, 2007, 06:19 Like others have said, it sounds like a good idea. I'd be keen to take part (again, as others have said, the motivation to paint to a deadline would be good as then I would actually get something done)
My problem would be the points limit - my fantasy army is pretty much assembled (I did start painting one unit but only got to the basecoat) but is only about 1000 points. And to be honest, I wasn't planning on expanding it anywhere past that for quite some time.
However, come to think of it, I do have some unpainted 40K miniatures as well; would painting 1000 points of one army and then switching to 1000 points of another army be cheating?
If not, I'd definitely be interested in this... Pickle September 13th, 2007, 07:31 well i would but 200pts of models is quite expensive to buy as i havent got a job at the moment otherwise i would so like me any poorer people (not to offend anyone) come in clubs and clans and find my painting pledge clan its free and only need one model painted a month minus_t September 13th, 2007, 09:04 I'm in, though I have a few suggestions and/or questions to make it a bit more flexible, if you don't mind?
The army list at the start, does it have to be set? I mean, obviously it's down to you (the painter/collector), but is the intention that people stay roughly on their original plans, or are they allowed to change lists etc if they feel thier chosen ones aren't really working.
ie: (lets say) I start this with some Imperial Fists. I work up 2000 points with lots of speedy, fast things. I decide (after a few months, maybe a game or two) that this isn't working for me. Can I change my mind and get an Imperial Fist army with shed-loads of Devastator squads?
Second, does it have to be 200pts/month? Surely you should be able to do it in whatever stages you want/can afford, so maybe you could do ~500pts one month, then only 50ish the next? Maybe a regiment/squad at a time?
Hopefully the answer to both of those questions is 'yes', but I figured it couldn't hurt to start asking...
Anyway, I would definately be interested, although as both of my current armies are WIP already, I'd have to either dump some stuff from my list/s, or start something new. Probably won't be doing the new option... :C
Good on ya, Kuff.
-t. Inquisitor Earl September 13th, 2007, 09:07 Since I am currently assembling and converting my Slaanesh renegade marine army this would be a great thing to participate in. I do have about 3500 points of models to get painted.
I wanted to get them all painted before this christmas though :)
Count me in anyway. I have 2000 points of guard to do as well. Stinger989 September 13th, 2007, 09:29 im up for it! im starting two new armies after getting back in after a 3 year break. so i got a lot ahead of me. been buying up alot though. i cant wait to make a armegeddon ork army. now that is something that is going to be extreamly overwhelming. Jon Quixote September 13th, 2007, 09:45 I'd be in, but since I'm struggling to get the time to do 3 models in a month, then I think I would fail horribly at this.
Maybe if I get around to finishing off my two *mostly* painted armies, then I could do this for my SoB (I have plenty of the models already, but hardly any of them are painted). But that doesn't seem likely until the end of the year.
Until then, I'm sticking with the comp and Pickle.
Good luck to everyone else though.8Y :C chemicalcaveman September 13th, 2007, 14:53 Right sign me up! This is exactly the thing I need to motivate myself. I've been talking for months if not years of getting this Lamenters army started/finished. I would be interested. Canew September 13th, 2007, 15:49 Coincidentally, I have a HUGE project I'm starting soon that is bound to finish with well over 3,000 points, but it's actually THREE armies, not just one (1,000-1,200 each of marines, DH and IG), and I was planning to do painting/conversion logs on this one already. I'll sign up here, but is it ok to link here to my painting log? Otherwise I'll be posting in two different places, which would be silly, and I wanna run my own dedicated thread so I can keep my own running tally on my stuff.
Sorry to ramble a bit there. King Ulrik Flamebeard September 13th, 2007, 19:35 Wow. Bit shocked by the response for this, I will answer comments first, then address a few things at the end.
Even with an objective, what's stopping us from posting pics of models we've already done and saying "look what i did this month"?
There is nothing stopping people from doing their own threads, in fact I would encourage it, but all I ask is that at each allotted day in the month they post up a) what they have painted and a full army picture. Not hard to ask is it?
THe only problem for me is procuring a Digital Camera... as both parents seem to have lost theirs. Sign me up if it's happening!
Well, to enter you must provide pictures, so a camera is required.
2000 thousand points is large?! Apocalypse is on the horizon my friend! soon, you can buy 2000+ points in a single box!! (there is no sarcasm smiley)
i would probally participate in this, its about the rate i am painting my WFT orc army. 1 model away from my first unit of savage orcs, and its been a month and a half.
True it is, but really how many will play with it on a regular basis? The idea here is for someone to have an army that is playable and variable, rather than making it for a specific thing.
Like others have said, it sounds like a good idea. I'd be keen to take part (again, as others have said, the motivation to paint to a deadline would be good as then I would actually get something done)
My problem would be the points limit - my fantasy army is pretty much assembled (I did start painting one unit but only got to the basecoat) but is only about 1000 points. And to be honest, I wasn't planning on expanding it anywhere past that for quite some time.
However, come to think of it, I do have some unpainted 40K miniatures as well; would painting 1000 points of one army and then switching to 1000 points of another army be cheating?
If not, I'd definitely be interested in this...
I'd have to think on this, but I'm a bit dubious about doing this. Ideally you should stick with one army and build it up to 2000pts like the rest.
well i would but 200pts of models is quite expensive to buy as i havent got a job at the moment otherwise i would so like me any poorer people (not to offend anyone) come in clubs and clans and find my painting pledge clan its free and only need one model painted a month
Oi! Get your own thread!! Bloody coming here and trying to pinch my mug...pun...memebers!! =P -__^
I'm in, though I have a few suggestions and/or questions to make it a bit more flexible, if you don't mind?
The army list at the start, does it have to be set? I mean, obviously it's down to you (the painter/collector), but is the intention that people stay roughly on their original plans, or are they allowed to change lists etc if they feel thier chosen ones aren't really working.
ie: (lets say) I start this with some Imperial Fists. I work up 2000 points with lots of speedy, fast things. I decide (after a few months, maybe a game or two) that this isn't working for me. Can I change my mind and get an Imperial Fist army with shed-loads of Devastator squads?
Second, does it have to be 200pts/month? Surely you should be able to do it in whatever stages you want/can afford, so maybe you could do ~500pts one month, then only 50ish the next? Maybe a regiment/squad at a time?
Hopefully the answer to both of those questions is 'yes', but I figured it couldn't hurt to start asking...
Anyway, I would definately be interested, although as both of my current armies are WIP already, I'd have to either dump some stuff from my list/s, or start something new. Probably won't be doing the new option...
Good on ya, Kuff.
-t.
Bloody hell.. trust you...
No, list do not have to be set. As I said I have taken things from another thread elsewhere, I will adapt what he said for LO. But I understand about flexibility; the only rules will be you must end up with a 2000pt army after a year.
It should stick to about 200pts; the reason being everyone is at the same level then and it should take a full year with two spare (more to come on that later, should it go ahead).
Coincidentally, I have a HUGE project I'm starting soon that is bound to finish with well over 3,000 points, but it's actually THREE armies, not just one (1,000-1,200 each of marines, DH and IG), and I was planning to do painting/conversion logs on this one already. I'll sign up here, but is it ok to link here to my painting log? Otherwise I'll be posting in two different places, which would be silly, and I wanna run my own dedicated thread so I can keep my own running tally on my stuff.
Sorry to ramble a bit there.
I would ask that you post in the thread as well. This way we have a log of who is doing what and what they've done all in one place and one person could follow this easily without hunting through other threads.
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What's the motivation?
I need to consider this, there might be something but I am undecided as yet. But why do it prizes or not? That is only something the member can decide. Some people struggle doing things unless there is a deadline - thus giving them all a chance to push on through. Others for the kudos and such. I don't have motivation for you, other than - do you want to do it?
Why 200pts and not X (insert currency here)?
Because, not everyone can pay out that much per month but two hundred points is easy to attain - it could be a character, a single squad/unit or a monster etc. Also, the idea is that at that rate people will be pretty much side by side in level terms. However, there will be leniency - I say 200pts, but if you do only 150pts, then you can add 50pts onto a future month. And if you do too much, then you can do less on another month. But this is only slight changes - no doing 500pts and not doing anything for two months etc. Lets all be fair here, if you want to do that, then why both joining in the first place?
I have a whole set of FAQ I have, which will be adapted to suit LO, that should cover most questions but really this thread is to see who would be interested in taking part, rather than a sign up thread. I will let it run for a short while longer; hopefully this could be started by the end of the month.
Again, any questions etc then email, pm me.
KU C/-Rt3r September 13th, 2007, 21:40 I am down for that. Got the dwarfs waiting. Martox September 14th, 2007, 01:07 Well, with me starting Nid's on Saturday; I'd be inclined to join in on this.
Though 2k poitns of nids is a nasty thought. >_< Gaunts... I'd go mad... madder. C/-Rt3r September 14th, 2007, 01:33 Over a year, it aint so bad. minus_t September 14th, 2007, 09:23 In that case, I am officially interested.
And also a git.
-t. chemicalcaveman September 14th, 2007, 14:15 And also a git.
-t.
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Good reply kuffy! Hopefully this will get off the ground! King Ulrik Flamebeard September 14th, 2007, 19:44 Well, like I said, I'm hoping to start by the end of the month; long enough for sign ups and such. Due to the interest, I will probably post up the sign up thread next week (possibly Tuesday).
I will say, I would prefer that the army is unpainted, when we start; or at least less than 350pts unpainted. To give everyone a close setting, if you follow my meaning. I have no qualms with them being converted by this time, but unpainted is preferable. If unsure, then contact me.
KU slorak September 14th, 2007, 21:15 I am interested. I have 2 armies I would like to get to playable levels - but seeing as you want us to start from scratch basically... I was considering re-doing my very small chaos army and with the new codex coming out... hmmm.
I will do my best to stay on target. I do a lot of painting projects and tend to find my own personal stuff neglected but... might be good motivation...
don't much care or need for prizes, will post as often as I can, and paint as rapidly as I can find the time!
It is a splending idea!
Cheers,
-Mike ShadowZora13 September 15th, 2007, 02:08 I might be game for this. I have waaaaay too many unpainted models, and leaving for college in one year, sounds like a good goal to work towards.
on a side note, why not just let people choose the points value they want, and work from there? Like I have mostly 1850 pt armies, so I would rather do 150 pts a month, or someone with 3000 pts doing 300 a month. Also, I don't see why some one with less stuff couldnt finish early if they really wanted, because frankly, if you have the inspiration to paint, but want to waut a full year, thats knida long.
Also, as I kinda just touched on, this seems very honor based, in both directions. someone could just not paint something and then so what, or someone could decide to paint more, and good for them.
Still, a great idea, and the stuff I just said isn't meant to be critisism or anything. X-Slash-X September 15th, 2007, 03:49 Count me in, my diminutive friend.
I currently have a 1000pt list that I have decided to work towards. I guess I could look it over and boost it to 2000. I could paint my first 1000pts, then slowly buy and paint the rest. The great thing is, I'm a lazy ass, so I have only one model partially painted so far. I've converted the majority of the other models, but I have a few that need cleaning/mold line removal.
I have, however, Primed an entire squad. Is that ok?
If so. I am at your service, short one.
X-Slash-X Brother Tiberius September 15th, 2007, 11:48 Im definatly in Teh Kuffyzor (im Definatly in Kuffy hehe)
yer, well 200pts is going to be a bit hard since my VC army is a necro horde =] should be really good though =]
-Tib Perturabo September 15th, 2007, 12:24 Graaah! why do these things always come at bad times for me? This would be the perfect motivation for me to paint my Chaos Dwarves. I'll be reunited withmy curly bearded ones in a couple of days, but I'll be leaving them again after a month or so. :(
Other than that, I'd be interested. I'll see if I can work somethig out. King Ulrik Flamebeard September 15th, 2007, 22:30 I might be game for this. I have waaaaay too many unpainted models, and leaving for college in one year, sounds like a good goal to work towards.
on a side note, why not just let people choose the points value they want, and work from there? Like I have mostly 1850 pt armies, so I would rather do 150 pts a month, or someone with 3000 pts doing 300 a month. Also, I don't see why some one with less stuff couldnt finish early if they really wanted, because frankly, if you have the inspiration to paint, but want to waut a full year, thats knida long.
Also, as I kinda just touched on, this seems very honor based, in both directions. someone could just not paint something and then so what, or someone could decide to paint more, and good for them.
Still, a great idea, and the stuff I just said isn't meant to be critisism or anything.
Because this way we're all on the same level. You see, there will be a poll at the end; and everyone votes for their top three. Thus, to keep things even and fair, all work towards the same aim with the same goals etc.
The year is there because it allows people to build slowly not buy all at once and not be snowed under with too much on your plate.
KU coz September 15th, 2007, 23:59 Im definately up for it
any excuse to get painting for myself (im so bored of painting 15mm stuff for everyone else)
im in the middle of writing a 1500 pt list so now ill add more points. Allonairre September 16th, 2007, 02:47 This sounds like a lot of fun, unfortunately both Lizardmen and HE have too many points painted, Might take advantage of Skull Pass and try and do Goblins. Might be a bit ambitious but I can but try.
Is there any consequence bar shame for failing to keep up warmonkey September 16th, 2007, 17:43 After just buying the Chaos army deal and some other stuff, I think I could be in for this. It will force me to take pics of the overall process. King Ulrik Flamebeard September 16th, 2007, 20:11 This sounds like a lot of fun, unfortunately both Lizardmen and HE have too many points painted, Might take advantage of Skull Pass and try and do Goblins. Might be a bit ambitious but I can but try.
Is there any consequence bar shame for failing to keep up
Well, it would be an honour system (ie, we cannot force you, but we'd like to think you'd stick with it), though I will have to power to issue 'warnings' - a number of these (maybe two or three) will result in the member's removal from the 'event'. Seems harsh, but saves people clogging up the thread and time wasting. =)
KU Truth September 16th, 2007, 22:29 I'd be more than happy to join in.
At best I'm a horrifically slow painter and some pressure would be an awesome way to help me get a move on. I have three armies in various states of completion that definitely do not see enough attention from me and this could be just the kind of medicine I need to cure my illness of procrastination...
So we can use 40K and WFB armies? Will there be separate threads or what? I'm also working on two armies - one Eldar, one Wood Elf - would it be possible to paint 100pts of each or will I have to do 400pts a month?
Sounds like a cool idea. Sign me up. King Ulrik Flamebeard September 16th, 2007, 22:41 Truth - There will indeed be separate threads for each system. About the two armies, I'm unsure on that. Someone brought it up, basically because there will be a poll for the best 2000pt army at the end, doing two would cut those people out. I'll have to think on it, but really, I'm leaning towards no. One army to 2000pts. But I'll have a think on it.
KU Truth September 18th, 2007, 16:23 Ah yes.
That's fine, it makes sense so I'll either sign up for one or both.
Thanks for the quick reply. :) Andusciassus September 18th, 2007, 21:23 Tale of Painters -Yes.Andusciassus goes Bretonnian...yessss.I'm in, if I may. King Ulrik Flamebeard September 18th, 2007, 21:28 Tale of Painters -Yes.Andusciassus goes Bretonnian...yessss.I'm in, if I may.
Of course you may. Will cost you a signup fee of £20. -__^ =P
I will get a rules set up soon; then you may all post and tell me the details. All to come in another thread, soon. =)
KU Andusciassus September 18th, 2007, 21:40 Then I'd like to add something,
One of the things I've always liked about the "tales" is how they learn to use the army during it's "birth". So, how about having the occasional Battle report (this may well be very short, something like...Chaos crushed me) and conclusions drawn from it on what to add to the army.
And I have (not read all the post I admit) another question. If I were to buy a model that costs say 400 points, would it be enough for me to paint half of it one month? :) King Ulrik Flamebeard September 18th, 2007, 21:47 Then I'd like to add something,
One of the things I've always liked about the "tales" is how they learn to use the army during it's "birth". So, how about having the occasional Battle report (this may well be very short, something like...Chaos crushed me) and conclusions drawn from it on what to add to the army.
And I have (not read all the post I admit) another question. If I were to buy a model that costs say 400 points, would it be enough for me to paint half of it one month? :)
Well, as you'll see, I will allow you to post a whole load per post you do; so a battle report is fully within reason I feel. =)
Ahh, after a Hyppogriff are we? -__^ But, I'd say yeah, that be OK. Or, to paint it alone - rest a month.
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