Newbie Help!

[Onnotangu]

Hi I was gifted with a rather large beastman army and I have no idea how to make a proper list for them. Can some some help me make s suitable army of them all?

1 morgur
1 kazarak the one eye
1 old style Gorthor the beast lord (in chariot)
1 chaos giant (custom build)
3 chaos trolls
6 fleshhounds (with riders)
7 Centagor
8 minitors
8 brey shaman
12 chariots
33 Beastagor
20 metal gor
40 metal ungor
25 plastic ungor
50 plastic gor

[frozencore]

Well you wont be able to field all of it. Beastmen armies vary greatly depending on how each person likes to play. But here goes.

First of you can't have all of those special characters in one army. I wouldn't field any of them as what they are, but they are cool looking models, so you could use morghur as a great bray shaman for example.

I would stay away from trolls if I were you, and Hell hounds don't exist anymore. 8 bray shamans in one list is impossible, and 12 chariots is just crazy. I have heard of chariot lists before, so you might want to give it a try.

Basically all your stuff just gives you a lot of flexibility. I wouldn't field it as one giant 4000 (just an estimate) point list, unless you really want to.

Right off the bat I see 8 minotaurs, which is going to be in 2 groups of 4... lets see where I go from there...

Do you want magic heavy or magic light? With all those shaman lets go heavy. You have all those bestigors, so you might as well use them, so that means khorngor

3000 points
Lord:
Beastlord, equiped however you want, but I recommend pelt of the dark young

Heroes:
Wargor with gor banner
3 bray shamans level 2, 1 with the staff of darkoth, chaos armor is nice on them.

Core:
2x 20 strong beast herd, 8 gors 2x hand weapons, 12 ungors(shields are up to you), foe render, standard, musician
2-4x 11 strong beast herd, 5 gors 2x hand weapons, 6 ungors(no shield), foe render, musician

2x 12 bestigors with the mark of khorne, full command

6 chariots

Special:
6 centigors with shields and full command

2x 4 minotaurs with great weapons, musician

Rare:
Giant with mutant monstrosity


Now that will give you a 3000 point list, but I reccomend you play with something smaller like 1000 points first and gradually move your way up to 3000 if you wish. Though, it seems a little diluted to me at 3000 points, it might be a stronger 2000 point list. Find out if you like things like the bestigors, shamans, the giant, and chariots, they will dictate how you play.

[Onnotangu]

yeah I think I'm just going to use it as a 3000 army.

I think the hellhounds are going to be either Chaos hounds or used as centigors(they all have ungors riding them) or used as flesh hounds I think that is what the model is. Sorry I'm used to playing wh40k and am unfamiliar with these,

[Phoenix]

Just to comment on Frozencore's list:

3000 points
Lord:
Beastlord, equiped however you want, but I recommend pelt of the dark young
>> also look at Armour of damnation and/or Gaze of the gods from HoC. Though possibly not the Gaze as he is kinda likely to run away...
Heroes:
Wargor with gor banner
>> personally i dont rate any of the Beasts magic banners, they are too costly. Though a BSB is handy for the rerolls, so good choice there.
Any chance you can mark him with Tzeentch sdo you have a 4th caster on the field? Yet still and Unidvided army so you can mix marks up later on. To do this though, youll need a unit marked the same, id suggest one of your many Chariots.
3 bray shamans level 2, 1 with the staff of darkoth, chaos armor is nice on them.
>> Note only one can have Chaos Armour, which kinda sucks. Dont forget to add Dispell Scrolls etc, unless enough stuff gets marked with Khorne.

Core:
2x 20 strong beast herd, 8 gors 2x hand weapons, 12 ungors(shields are up to you), foe render, standard, musician
2-4x 11 strong beast herd, 5 gors 2x hand weapons, 6 ungors(no shield), foe render, musician

2x 12 bestigors with the mark of khorne, full command
>> these units are uite small, id say drop the banners. CRes comes from kills.

6 chariots
>> !!! ... :)

Special:
6 centigors with shields and full command
>> Only a musician here, unless you have some pts spare, then maybe a Champ too

2x 4 minotaurs with great weapons, musician
>> possibly have a unit with 2xHW, also marked Khorne, for loads of attacks. Make the GW guys Nurgle and add LA, if your Genaral is Undivided.

Rare:
Giant with mutant monstrosity

Will all this really hit 3K? i havent actually added up to check, but i think there is either a lot more you can get in here, or play it at lower points (Drop a Bray Shaman).

[frozencore]

Just giving a basic framework of a list, nothing too definite there. I am a big proponent of pointing someone in the right direction and letting them make the choices them self.

I also messed up with two units of khorngors, you can only have one. I find that stupid, but it is true. So beef up the one unit to 18 and drop the other one.

Minotaurs can only have the mark of the army general, so no mark of khorne if he is undivided. Though mark of khorne is an option for the general.

I also find it stupid that they elude to giving marks to chariots in the beast book but do not actually list the rules for it, nor is there an FAQ giving a definitive ruling on if you can or not. Whether they can or not can be argued both ways.

[Onnotangu]

i can give a mark to a chariot?

[Phoenix]

I cant remember exactly, but i dont think Beast Chariots can be marked. If they can it will say so in the Chariot entry in the BoC army book.