I was just noticing on a few of the battle reports that a lot of people are making mistakes with regards to the blessing of the lady, the main two are the turn alterations and losing it. So I thought I'd just clear those up here

1. If the bretonnian player decides to pray during his deployment, his opponent gets to decide whether they go first or second, the bretonnian player does NOT miss his first turn.

2. If a bretonnian unit with the blessing of the lady flees in combat only that unit and any characters within lose the blessing, NOT the whole army.

I'm sorry if people have been through this before but I have noticed on the battle reports involving the bretonnians that they are common mistakes and it really is quite annoying, with regards to both of those points, the lady isn't that stingy.

Otherwise

GO BRETONNIA

*Shrug*

I've never seen anyone botch either of those two rules, but I haven't been digging up old Bretonnia Batreps either.

Oh well.

The only misunderstanding I see frequently is that people think that praying automatically makes the Bretonnians go second, when, in fact, it merely gives their opponent the CHOICE of whether to go first or second. I believe the confusion arises because most people will choose to go first.

(Correct me if I'm wrong on this, I'm not a Bretonnian expert...)

The only misunderstanding I see frequently is that people think that praying automatically makes the Bretonnians go second, when, in fact, it merely gives their opponent the CHOICE of whether to go first or second. I believe the confusion arises because most people will choose to go first.

(Correct me if I'm wrong on this, I'm not a Bretonnian expert...)

You're definitely right Tempest, and I agree with you on its basis, though I have on some occasions faced bretonnian players who have elected to go second - simply to save being charged first turn - though this is namely an issue on small maps with beginners. Oh well

if you take the vow to go on foot (vow of empathy?) you don't have to pay for a horse first do you? doesn't make any sense but its what i've been told

if you take the vow to go on foot (vow of empathy?) you don't have to pay for a horse first do you? doesn't make any sense but its what i've been told

No. That would be silly.

The virtue stops the mount from being mandatory.

I don't play bretts, but my buddy does. The most common thing I see people misunderstand is that errants are ItP on the charge. Also some people don't utilise being able to put the damsel in the 2nd rank.

Since you are on the topic of misconceptions and I am new to WHFB let alone Bretonnians this seems like a good place for it.

Damsel in 2nd rank and LoS rules... can she still fling a spell at a unit infront of the unit she is in the second rank of, OR! does the first rank block LoS? and if it DOES block LoS... would standing on a hill give it back?

Thanks

Damsel in 2nd rank and LoS rules... can she still fling a spell at a unit infront of the unit she is in the second rank of, OR! does the first rank block LoS?

The first rank blocks LOS, as stated in the section about the lance formation in the army book. HOWEVER, this does not stop her casting spells entirely, only those that require LOS.


and if it DOES block LoS... would standing on a hill give it back?


AFAIK, hills only give a bonus to ranged firing, in terms of allowing the first two ranks to fire as opposed to only the first rank. However, it has been a while since I read the rulebook, so it may be prudent to consult the wording.

ok, Thank you very much

I don't play bretts, but my buddy does. The most common thing I see people misunderstand is that errants are ItP on the charge.

They are ItP on the charge!

They are ItP on the charge!

I think he was saying, that people playing against Brets forget they are ItP on the charge.





AFAIK, hills only give a bonus to ranged firing, in terms of allowing the first two ranks to fire as opposed to only the first rank. However, it has been a while since I read the rulebook, so it may be prudent to consult the wording.


In the section about hills, It does state rules about shooting, but thats not what they're all about. It basicly says, models on hills count as large targets. Heres the quote:

'Units on a hill draw a line of sight from an elevated position and they can always shoot (and be shot at) over models that are not on a hill, in the same way as described for large targets'

So, even though shooting is mentioned, it's talking about line of sight. So, yes, your Damsel can see in the 2nd rank on a hill, to models not on a hill themselves.

All that said, your Damsel should be using Lore of Life, and only 1 spell even needs line of sight! And since The Rain Lord is a permanent effect, you can get into the 1st rank, cast it, and next turn, slip back into the 2nd anyway.

Also, I think Damels tend to be used more for defense more than anything, thanks to magic resistance. Brets must spend so much on characters as it is (thanks to BSB), so expenisve wizards just means less knights. Well, thats what I think, anyway...

Tim

All that said, your Damsel should be using Lore of Life, and only 1 spell even needs line of sight!

3/6 spells in both Life and Beasts need Line of Sight. Damsel offense pretty much sucks if they are in Lances. Support can be handy if you roll Gift of Life. Anything else and theyre just in a defensive role really.

All that said, your Damsel should be using Lore of Life, and only 1 spell even needs line of sight! And since The Rain Lord is a permanent effect, you can get into the 1st rank, cast it, and next turn, slip back into the 2nd anyway.

Wouldn't that count as a reform or something of that nature, limiting movement?

And thats again for helping with this!

Nope.

Characters are allowed to move freely around the unit.

-AFG//

Nope.

Characters are allowed to move freely around the unit.

-AFG//

Correct. Characters can move freely amongst their unit in thei rown movement phase.

Tim