View Full Version : 2000 Points - Green Knight Army dinodeanpostcat January 13th, 2008, 09:18 I have messed about for months trying to find a WFB army I like, and have bought about 9 army books. Reading the Brets book yesterday gave me a nice 'fluffy' idea.
I am not into power gaming, win at all costs, for me a well painted, themed army is what I want. The idea here is that the force is devoted to the Green Knight and scours the land doing his bidding. In times of great peril the Green Knight will 'appear' to aid them.
Lord
Green Knight
Heros
Paladin, Battle Standard Bearer, Barded Warhorse, Twilight Banner
Paladin, Royal Pegasus, Heartwood Lance, Enchanted Shield [Army General]
2 x Damsels, Barded Warhorse, Dispel Scroll, Lvl 2 Wizard, Chalice of Malfleur
note, twilight banner is very fluffy giving the unit the move through anything rule for one turn, just like the Green Knight.
Total Points 857
Core
4 x 6 Knights of the Realm, each with Full Command
Total Points 672
Special
4 x Pegasus Knights with Full Command
Total Points 250
Rare
5 x Grail Knights with Full Command
Total Points 220
Army Total 1999 Points
The whole army will be painted in whites and greens, with ornate 'embriodery' painted on the cloth (Art Neuveau twisting vines etc) and ivy wrapped around their lances. The Pegasus Knights will be based flying over trees, whilst the other figures will have forest bases.
It's hopefully something a bit different.
Anyway, comments appreciated about any aspect.
Thanks. Phoenix January 13th, 2008, 16:08 Sounds cool, i like themed armies.
The Pegasi dont need FC, or atleast they shouldnt need the banner. How will the Characters be mixed in with the units? the BSB and Damsels i mean. I think you should try and get any unit with a Character or two in, to be atleast 9 strong in Lance. If not, then i think a single rank of 6 wide Knights will e the better option for the MSU all mounted army type. Spector January 13th, 2008, 19:10 The list looks cool, like Deceiver mentioned above, its good to see some themed lists out there. The one question I have for you is where are your characters mounted on warhorses going to go? dinodeanpostcat January 13th, 2008, 20:01 Thanks for the compliments about the themed army.
Simple answer to the question about where to put characters....
I DON'T KNOW
That's the 'being completely new to WFB bit'.
The Paladin on the Pegasus joins the Pegasus unit, I've worked that one out.
I thought of putting the BSB with the Grail Knights, as they are the best unit.
As for the Damsels, I have absolutely no idea. With just a hand weapon shes probably no good in combat, I just have them for some magic.
Can they go on their own?
Can they 'do magic' whilst in close combat?
I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA
HELP Phoenix January 13th, 2008, 20:14 lol, okay okay calm down :) we're here to help.
First of all, Characters cannot join units of flyers, so the one thing you had set, the Paladin in the Pegasi, is unfortunately illigal. He will be fine alone.
As for the rest:
Hmm... BSB with the Grails brings them to 6 strong. Thats fine for now.
As for the Damsels, they may be placed in the center or the second rank of a lance formation, and from there they can still cast magic, but have no line of sight. Dont worry about that though, your magic is mainly defensive anyway. With no LoS, a damel only has a 50% chance of rolling a spell she can actually use.
So, concerning their positioning... Add one to the Grails, bringing them to 7. The maybe look at adding 2 more GKs for a full lance of 9. Contrary to my usual opinion, but hey, i think its logical here. They are following the Green Knight afterall!
Have the second one added to a Realm Knight unit, and again boost that unit to 9 strong. You will need some points to play with for this though, so i think dropping a Realm unit of 6 altogether will be fine. Maybe even drop 2, and get a 9 strong Errant unit with FC and Errantry banner. The also boost the 1 remaining Realm unit to 9 strong.
Hope this all makes sense and is helpful :) Spector January 13th, 2008, 20:33 Don't forget, if a character is in with the Grail Knights, he needs the Grail Vow. dinodeanpostcat January 14th, 2008, 00:05 Thanks for both your advice, it's much appreciated.
I will have a play around with the list and post a new one.
I have also read that I cannot have 2 Damsels each with the same magic item (i.e. the Chalice of Malfleur in my case). If so, I will sort that out as well. Phoenix January 14th, 2008, 00:20 Ooh yes thats true, guess i just didnt think to question that due to the way the damsel entry was layed out. The Chalice is a great item, but indeed you are correct so loose one for a Dispel Scroll, unless the points are needed elsewhere. dinodeanpostcat January 14th, 2008, 22:54 Thanks for the advice, I have taken it all in and here's the switched around army with characters allocated to units.
Lord
Green Knight
Heros
Paladin, Grail Vow, Battle Standard Bearer, Barded Warhorse, Twilight Banner
Paladin, Royal Pegasus, Heartwood Lance, Enchanted Shield [Army General]
Damsel, Barded Warhorse, Dispel Scroll, Lvl 2 Wizard, Chalice of Malfleur
Damsel, Barded Warhorse, Dispel Scroll x 2, Lvl 2 Wizard
note, twilight banner is very fluffy giving the unit the move through anything rule for one turn, just like the Green Knight.
Total Points 883
Core
2 x 8 Knights of the Realm, each with Full Command (2 x Twilight Banner)
note, one Damsel joins each unit to make a Lance of 9
Total Points 482
Special
4 x Pegasus Knights
Rare
8 x Grail Knights with Full Command, Banner of Defence
note, Paladin Battle Standard Bearer joins unit to make a Lance of 9
Total Points 364
Army Total 1949 Points
Some big blocks of Knights here, but more fluffy in my opinion because of it. For the army of the Green Knight would be more compact, more 'elite'.
Anyway with 51 points left, what should I spend them on? Spector January 15th, 2008, 00:35 A few comments on the list.
First I would drop down the Damsels both to level 1. If they are in the middle of a lance formation of knights, they will not have Line of Sight on anything, which will severely hamper their ability to cast.
Also, the Twilight Banner is a magic banner, which is a magic item. You can only have 1 of it in a list. Phoenix January 15th, 2008, 04:08 Looks good. with the spare points, including loosing the Damsles xtra levels, and possibly dropping a Scroll or two, look at a small Errant Knight unit maybe, with their banner. dinodeanpostcat January 20th, 2008, 16:34 Here is the new Green Knight army list.
Lord
Green Knight
Heros
Paladin, Grail Vow, Battle Standard Bearer, Barded Warhorse, Twilight Banner
Paladin, Royal Pegasus, Heartwood Lance, Enchanted Shield [Army General]
Damsel, Barded Warhorse, Dispel Scroll, Chalice of Malfleur
Damsel, Barded Warhorse, Dispel Scroll x 2
note, Twilight Banner is very fluffy giving the unit the move through anything rule for one turn, just like the Green Knight.
Total Points 813
Core
2 x 8 Knights of the Realm, each with Full Command
note, one Damsel joins each unit to make a Lance of 9
1 x 6 Errant Knights, Full Command and Errantry Banner
Total Points 593
Special
4 x Pegasus Knights
Rare
8 x Grail Knights with Full Command, Banner of Defence
note, Paladin Battle Standard Bearer joins unit to make a Lance of 9
Total Points 364
Army Total 1990 Points
I think now I have put into place all the comments and suggestions that have been made.
Can anyone think of anything that I have missed?
Thanks. Phoenix January 20th, 2008, 22:56 Can anyone think of anything that I have missed?
Nope, looks good :) arisen devil January 21st, 2008, 10:57 The list looks good ;Y. The only change I'd make is swap one pegasus knights for 3 extra knight errants. A unit of 9 at S6 on the charge will most surely surprise your opponent :D, especially if you take into account that they are "the weakest knights". But that's just personal preference really. Phoenix January 21st, 2008, 11:30 Good call arisen devil. As you have some pts spare anyway thats a pretty good idea. Generally Pegasi targets will be a bit small to get all 4 into combat at once anyway. | |