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xadrian
February 20th, 2008, 04:51
Quick question regarding Vespero's Vendetta. Sorry if this has already been asked, haven't seen it. So if Vespero's mask causes Fear, it is only him that causes it right? This means that the enemy troops would have to take a fear test, but only to hit on 6's when attacking Vespero. Also that he wouldn't be able to make the enemy auto-run, or hit em with a fear causing flank attack correct?

buckero0
February 20th, 2008, 15:14
I've been wanting to look this up too. If the model that causes fear is unit str 1-3, but with his unit he outnumbers the enemy unit, does he still cause the autobreak from fear and outnumber?

Basically you don't want to take this guy. No matter what the ruling, he's not worth the points from him dying. Just get some regular duelist/skirmishers if you want them, or give them pistols for a stand and shoot reaction.

DavidVC04
February 21st, 2008, 14:11
Page 78.

His unit gains immunity to fear because of him but the unit does not itself cause fear.

Enemies test only if they will come into contact with him. If failed, enemy would hit only him on 6's.

buckero0
February 21st, 2008, 14:37
in vesparo's case, it's easy, but i guess teh rules remain the same.

So my unit of 17 fear causing Phoenix guard with 2 non-fearcausing characters beat a unit of 18 swordsmen, do they autobreak when beaten?

Would they run or just hit on sixes if they were that same size and failed the fear test while I charged?

xadrian
February 21st, 2008, 19:03
Hmmm, I think we need a rule expert here...
I think that they wouldn't auto break due to outnumber. But that makes for a bunch of weird tests for hitting on 6's... arg.
I'll post this in the rules section.
I think we need someone with limitless knowledge of rules...

DavidVC04
February 21st, 2008, 23:45
in vesparo's case, it's easy, but i guess teh rules remain the same.

So my unit of 17 fear causing Phoenix guard with 2 non-fearcausing characters beat a unit of 18 swordsmen, do they autobreak when beaten?

Would they run or just hit on sixes if they were that same size and failed the fear test while I charged?

No, they wouldn't run. It's the total number of fear-causing models that forces an autobreak.

If charging, the swordsmen would need 6's to hit the fear-causers. There's nothing to really address this directly, but going from what is availble, I'd say it's just the fear-causers that one needs 6's against.

The Loki
February 22nd, 2008, 01:13
well a Perk you missed Dave is Charge prevention. If Charging would bring a unit into contact whith a fear causing character they must test for fear or be unable to charge. This of course is HUGE.

Now this does not protect said unit from flank charges.

buckero0
February 22nd, 2008, 05:03
that's what I figured, you just count up the unit strength of the fear causers. You'd still get the outnumber bonus but test on regular combat resolution - not autobreak.

Vesparo's cost, weakness and frailty are the prohibitive factors in taking him instead of regular duelists.

DavidVC04
February 22nd, 2008, 05:07
well a Perk you missed Dave is Charge prevention. If Charging would bring a unit into contact whith a fear causing character they must test for fear or be unable to charge. This of course is HUGE.

Now this does not protect said unit from flank charges.

Nice catch, I did miss that one. Rep up, The Loki!