Well hi there guys, I would like to ask you some advice here.

I used to play Warhammer Fantasy quite some while ago. Due to all kinds of reasons, I stopped playing the game and sold off all my horribly painted models. Now a long time has passed and I am itching to get back into the game again. However, I am only 17 years old and I haven't got a job, therefore my bank account is rather dry most of the time...

My question is, is it possible to get back into Warhammer Fantasy with very little money? For example, all I've got at the moment is 30 euros and they're gonna have to get me through this entire month... you know, I already think that with my current financial situation I won't be getting any warhammer whatsoever anytime soon :P

There is light at the end of the tunnel, though. When I graduate from High School, I'll be able to get a job and make a bit of money before starting with uni. I'd really like to start playing the new High Elves, but again as of right now money is realllly tight.

Are there any other persons out there who are in the same situation as I am in, or have been in such a position? What would you advice me to do? Should I wait until I get more money, or... something else?

One rule I want to enforce to myself is not to buy more stuff until I've got it all painted up to my best possible standards. What I used to do was buy more stuff than I would paint, and we all know where that leads to...

Maybe I could just... buy one character blister at a time for now?

Warhammer. The rich geeks game.


One rule I want to enforce to myself is not to buy more stuff until I've got it all painted up to my best possible standards.HAHAHAH you do relise that this is physicaly impossible, don't you?

Hmm, you can go ebay, but prepare to strip many many things.
Or there are online 20-30% off stores.
You can always go the parents road, a very shameful road indeed. But i'd say get the HE amry book and oogle that untill you have a job/rob a bank. ;Y

Sorry if this isn't much help.

Im a student and am currently at least £6000 in debt. I dont get to play warhammer anymore but I do play on Vassal for 40k.

buy the rulebook and if you have friends then you can proxy everything (that can is a lion chariot...) until you know exactly what you want to get.

Ebay is the way forward my friend, you can get better stuff for less, particularly important if you want to paint to the best of your abilities. If you have friends that play that can often be a way of getting your hands on somthing to play with at least.

From your using Euros in your post I take it you don't live in the US. Over here you can 'donate' plasma and make about $50 a week. That would be more than enough to get started with a box of models and a few cans of paint to get you going. It might be something to look into until you can land something a bit more steady.

You sell your blood for models... That's dedication right there...

Well, it depends.

30 Euros isn't all that much, and that's what you have for the month, you may want to save it, especially if you go out often or if you have other hobbies.

However, if you're one of those people who doesn't go out to eat or whatever very often, I say buy the Army Book for now. From there, you can plan out your army and when you get some more money, you can start working on it.

You sell your blood for models... That's dedication right there...

Are you willing to buy it, then? :)

Well, it depends.

30 Euros isn't all that much, and that's what you have for the month, you may want to save it, especially if you go out often or if you have other hobbies.

However, if you're one of those people who doesn't go out to eat or whatever very often, I say buy the Army Book for now. From there, you can plan out your army and when you get some more money, you can start working on it.

True, I don't have a lot of expenses at this time. I won't be needing the book, I think I'll get some core troops first just to get started painting.

Originally Posted by Walex
You sell your blood for models... That's dedication right there...


Hmmm rather be a sperm donor it's more fun and gives the painting hand some exercise.....get paid for what I do every Saturday night, ah hell every night.;)


Originally Posted by MisterDutch
What would you advice me to do?


Unfortunately little money and GW are a rare combination, I know the score on that one. I suppose it depends on how keen you are. I have other hobbies and can easily ditch 40K when times are hard, won't say I don't miss it but food, warmth and a roof mean more to me. However if you are prepared to be patient, stick a small amount of cash aside each week or month it's still possible to build a small playable force, really it just depends on whether you're that interested enough to do so or would rather leave it until you have cash on the hip. Personally I would go for the later, done it before, but as I say I have other interests, it's your finances your shout.

If you have some painting supplies already I would say buy some models you like and start painting. You can leave making an army out of them later on when you have what is approaching a playable force. You could always get advice from other players on here about what to buy as well. If you don't have any paints and things they can require a decent amount of cash to get the number of paints you would need to get started.

It's also not a good idea to be discussing illegally downloading the army book. Other than just being plan illegal and therefore having no place here, it's against forum rules as well.

Hmmm rather be a sperm donor it's more fun and gives the painting hand some exercise.....get paid for what I do every Saturday night, ah hell every night.;)

:rofl Nah, thanks but no thanks. I'd rather not have random people knocking on my door in 20 years, telling me that I'm their father, just because I wanted to buy some plastic toy soldiers. Besides I'm only 17.

If you have some painting supplies already I would say buy some models you like and start painting. You can leave making an army out of them later on when you have what is approaching a playable force. You could always get advice from other players on here about what to buy as well. If you don't have any paints and things they can require a decent amount of cash to get the number of paints you would need to get started.

It's also not a good idea to be discussing illegally downloading the army book. Other than just being plan illegal and therefore having no place here, it's against forum rules as well.

Alrighty, that's probably what I'm going to do, then. I'm just not sure what to get. Maybe some Dragon Princes, they are one of the few units I know for sure I want in my army... :?

Sorry for mentioning illegal downloads, by the way :(

It's also not a good idea to be discussing illegally downloading the army book. Other than just being plan illegal and therefore having no place here, it's against forum rules as well.

Ding ding ding, we have a winner. :) LO frowns upon discussion of illegal copyright violations; not only is it against our forum rules, but it could also get the forum in big trouble with GW. None of us wants that, right?

Alrighty, that's probably what I'm going to do, then. I'm just not sure what to get. Maybe some Dragon Princes, they are one of the few units I know for sure I want in my army... :?


You can't go wrong with Dragon Princes, since with the new rules they are one of the units most people seem to include in their armies. The only problem is that you don't get many models for your money, and if you're short on cash then buying DPs will use it up for very few models. Most of the elite units do that, though, and the core aren't the nicest sculpts around (gorilla hands...*sigh*).

Ebay is good for cheap models and books, just dont get caried away with the bidding or youll undo all your good money-saving work!

Unfortunately low funds and WHFB do not go hand in hand, but there are ways of getting free games- go to your local GW store for example and play there- its a way of learning the rules without spending any cash anyway!

Other than that, find a friend who has money, get them to buy the Battle for Skull pass box and split the figures, bingo free army! even if it is technically your mates- also this way you have a regular game partner

My advice is to definitely not buy any rulebooks.

Only buy models.

My advice is to definitely not buy any rulebooks.

Only buy models.

I disagree, you should always have the rulebook, or at the very least the army books..although, again, if you have a friend who has the rules then the main rulebook isnt a necessity at the moment

Thanks for all the advice thus far, boys and girls. I am currently looking on Ebay and the dutch marktplaats.nl site for some 2nd hand high elves as someone suggested.

There are actually a lot of things out there and currently I am bidding the little money I have on some cool auctions. I hope that this whole internet buying thing is a safe thing (not a scam or anything) and that I can get those things I bidded on, that'd be awesome.

Otherwise I'd have to resort to buying stuff new which is more expensive and thus slower...

I will keep you updated how it goes :) 8Y

When my friends and I were students we proxied everything. We got some cardboard boxes and cut out strips of bases, then marked them with slips of paper denoting unit types. We got some more cardboard and made terrain. As the years went by, we gradually collected enough models to field the real thing, but the games were just as fun before.

Also, if you dont plan on hitting tournaments and your friends arent picky, you can get many generic miniatures from other companies at a greatly reduced price.

Here are a few examples:

Cheapest Dwarfs and Orcs you will find. Period. (http://www.tindictator.com/tindic.html)
(click EM-4 then fantasy plastic)

Large range of models perfect for Warhammer. (http://www.black-tree-design.com/btdcat.php?rangenum=1&typenum=1&ctry=us&lng=gb&qty=0&sub=&shp=&tot=)

And yet more. Slightly higher quality than above, slightly higher price. (http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/categories.asp?cat=12)

Hope it helps.

Put $10000 into a penny stock. Then hope for the best.


Good luck.

How keen are you to play HE over other races? if you are willing to play either Dwarves or (orcs &) Goblins, then skull pass is crazy crazy good value. if anything it's not much more then the rulebook, but it has a compact book plus 100 models ( roughly 500 pts of both armies).

if you can fid a friend to split this with then your going even better...

Edit: And another question, are you already playing / hobbying with another system such as 40K? or do you have all the hobby gear such as paints and brushes, as well as dice etc.? it's kind of hard to go without these things, so if you already have them it makes life easier, if not, then THIS (http://store.us.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.us?do=List_Models&code=305698&orignav=305698&ParentID=259565&GameNav=13) would make your life a lot easier

Whens your birthday? :-p

Hehe yes I have already got some pots of paint and a couple of brushes.

Battle of Skull Pass is a great starting set, however, I don't really like dwarves (too defensive) nor Orcs and Goblins (what! you expect me to play... *gasp* bad guys?)

My birthday is in roughly 2 months time :P

Currently I'm aiming for a 600 points High Elf army since that's what my gaming club is going to hold somewhere late april...

hmm, so your Birthday is just after you want to have all this done, how ironic. Generally speaking, the Battalion Boxes are a cheaper method of pts per $, but you obviously can't drop that much cash at once. Unfortunately geting 600pts the normal way will cost you more than 60 euro. depending on what country youre in, and what your tax and shipping costs would be, many online sellers may be of use however, that would get 10 - 20% cheaper, such as

Maelstrom (http://www.maelstromgames.co.uk/index.php?act=cat&cre=min-wfb-hef&cur=eur)
Oracle (http://www.oraclegames.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1_100_1006&products_id=100602)
NU Gaming (http://www.nugaming.com/html/high_elf.html)
The Dragon Tears (http://www.thedragonstears.com/sales.aspx)
which are all brit / Euro based. there are many more, such as scrapdragon (http://www.scrapdragon.ashop.com.au/c/22234/1/high-elves.html) which are good for me as I'm in Aus as well as a few US ones, which may be good for your with the crappy state of their dollar

The problem with ebay is that you will often need to strip them down, which can end up costing as much as new models to do anyway,..

You inspired me. I am sure there are many others in your predicament. So I compiled a list of companies that produce miniatures that would look good in any Warhammer army (including a lot of High Elves), but at a fraction of the price.

There is even a link there that would allow you to pour your own Elves with moulds (nothing illegal I assure you).

Anyway, here (http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/general-hobby-discussion/115797-resources-cheap-minis.html) is the link to my post.

Hope it helps someone,

neuro

Iaphyr, thanks a lot for those sites! Rep for you! Especially Maelstrom, those guys ship for FREE and they're almost 25% cheaper than what I would pay in my local store... That's awesome!

On a side note, I won some auctions on Ebay today. I got quite a lot of models for a very low price!

Also, I got this idea: if I find someone willing to start either dwarves or goblins, and me and him buy two "Battle for Skull pass" boxes together. Then we swap the armies we don't want, for example he gets all the dwarves and I get all the goblins (or vice versa) that way, we'd both have a 1000 point force for only 50 euros!

I guess Warhammer can be affordable, if you really try! Thanks a bunch for all the advices so far, guys! :D

Also, I got this idea: if I find someone willing to start either dwarves or goblins, and me and him buy two "Battle for Skull pass" boxes together. Then we swap the armies we don't want, for example he gets all the dwarves and I get all the goblins (or vice versa) that way, we'd both have a 1000 point force for only 50 euros!
That's a solution.
Also, remember that if you end up with a bunch of option bits that you don't plan on using, you could try to trade them with someone - either for money or directly for miniatures.

Also, I got this idea: if I find someone willing to start either dwarves or goblins, and me and him buy two "Battle for Skull pass" boxes together. Then we swap the armies we don't want, for example he gets all the dwarves and I get all the goblins (or vice versa) that way, we'd both have a 1000 point force for only 50 euros!
That's a solution.
Also, remember that if you end up with a bunch of option bits that you don't plan on using, you could try to trade them with someone - either for money or directly for miniatures.

Specialist games is another alternative if gaming is your thing. Whilst you save and paint your minis for your Fantasy army you could give Mordheim a go. It only requires a small number of models, between 5 and 12 to start, and a campaign can span a good while if you have 4 or more people involved.

Also, I got this idea: if I find someone willing to start either dwarves or goblins, and me and him buy two "Battle for Skull pass" boxes together. Then we swap the armies we don't want, for example he gets all the dwarves and I get all the goblins (or vice versa) that way, we'd both have a 1000 point force for only 50 euros!


yep, thats what I did, except with 4 boxes worth 8X If you do this though, chose the dwarves, because otherwise you get a LOT of Gobbos (I'm still painting them a year on...)

Christians and people with high morals0:: DO NOT READ

The simple suggestion is to sell your soul to the red man with horns that appears after your 13th double Vodka :drinking: (yes, I know I'm too young to drink, but I'm of the belief that you gotta aim high in life...if that means buying a fake ID from an Irishman then so be it). An alternative is to sell everything you own, or even better have 9 kids, and sell them off for meat (make sure you feed them up first, no-one likes to eat a skinny baby). If you are horrified by the idea of selling children to rich cannibals:X, then you're probably playing the wrong game. Aaaanyway, another idea is to cut off a rich persons face and pretend to be them (Silence of the Lambs anyone?). My final idea is probably the most logical one - build an army of mini-robots and raid local hobby-stores. If all of the above fails, you could grow a beard and beg like a hobo, but be warned, I WILL kick you if you try it on me.

If you have been affected by any of the issues raised in this post (Satanism, underage drinking, cannabilism, disfigurement or high-tech Japanese shopping and many, many more) please remember, these aren't just MY ideas, this is how Bill Gates did it ;Y.

Oh, and if any Irish person takes offence at the use of an Irishman in connection to fraud (providing fake ID's to 15 year olds), I'm half Irish, so it's not racism, it's self hatred ;).

P.s. DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TAKE ME SERIOUSLY!

P.p.s EXCEPT ABOUT THE BILL GATES BIT :D

P.p.p.s AND THE HOBO BIT (tried and tested by yours truly ;))

Anyway, good luck with the army building, feel free to post again if you require any of my revolutionary, forward-thinking ideas;Y.

Peace (see, there's a good message after all)
:happy:

If you have some creativity you could make some nice scenery for very little money and then sell it. I know there are a lot of hobbyists who don't have the time between modeling, painting and strategizing to make scenery. They would gladly pay someone else to do it. Win-Win

From your using Euros in your post I take it you don't live in the US. Over here you can 'donate' plasma and make about $50 a week. That would be more than enough to get started with a box of models and a few cans of paint to get you going. It might be something to look into until you can land something a bit more steady.

WOW man WOW, that's a little messed up... I need to find myself a blood clinic.

I would buy the spearhead box of whatever army you want from ebay.