I used to know the scale of the Warhammer models, but I managed to forget (Shame...). I just want to know so I can convert a modern tank hobby model (e.g. Challanger 2) to a Leman Russ equivalent. Also I would like to know your opinions on a modern tank converted into Leman Russ equivalent.

That's all, thanks.

i believe it's around 1:48 / 1:64. But scales vary, the best way is to measure a leman russ in length and buy a model which is roughly the same length as the leman russ.

Nice. Thanks bro.

But, as stated, measure and perhaps even take a leman russ or chimera into the store so you don't end up with a model completly wrong the wrong scale!

Hi,

Some figures for you:
30mm figures are 1/48 - 1/50 scale
28mm figures are 1/54 - 1/56
25mm figures are 1/60 - 1/62

But, take a vechile with you. 40K is notorious for under sized vechiles.
Think about it - 10 men with full battle kit and armour + 2 crew into a Rhino??? That's a REAL friendly transport system.

Think about it - 10 men with full battle kit and armour + 2 crew into a Rhino??? That's a REAL friendly transport system.

I used to think so too, but then i heard some real ww2 stories about soldiers being almost literally piled in.

http://images.kitlink.com/Products/images/Tamiya/TAM32550.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Warsaw_Uprising_-_Captured_SdKfz_251_%281944%29.jpg/800px-Warsaw_Uprising_-_Captured_SdKfz_251_%281944%29.jpg
http://www.hobbiesguinea.com/imagenes/images2/35020image.jpg

These halftracks held 10 (!) passengers and 2 crew.

I love those halftracks

As has been stated 1:48 is about right, but ive also found some 1:35 scale models fit well, it depends on what the model is of! a Tiger tank or something similarly sized, for example, might look too big at this larger scale

As has been stated 1:48 is about right, but ive also found some 1:35 scale models fit well, it depends on what the model is of! a Tiger tank or something similarly sized, for example, might look too big at this larger scale

Yeah, i want to buy a wespe to modify as a basilisk, i think i'll just take my existing bassie model into the store :P

http://www2.gpmd.com/image/t/tams2300.jpg

Using the chasis and gun cover form the model and the gun and heavy bolter from my bassie

The tricky thing about cramming ten marines into a rhino, is that they have hard armour. You just can't squeeze them together...

And about the Challenger/Russ - I don't like such conversions. It just won't look like a Russ, but a undercover Challenger... Sorry mate!

Your forgetting the hours of twister that Space Marines play in preparation for cramming into a rhino

And about the Challenger/Russ - I don't like such conversions. It just won't look like a Russ, but a undercover Challenger... Sorry mate!

You have point there, the leman russ is old fashioned looking, and high, like a sherman. So a modern tank won't look so good i fear...

You have point there, the leman russ is old fashioned looking, and high, like a sherman. So a modern tank won't look so good i fear...

I agree, WW2 tanks look better than anything too modern- if you can find a scale Mark I tank from WW1 so much the better!

I understand what you mean, but it's not actually going to be a russ, just an equivalent. I'll have to use some modelling plastic to make the side sponsons look more believeable. It's hard to explain what I have in mind through typing but yeah.

Also, I want to use a modern tank because it's lower than the leman russ and, in my opinion, looks better.

Anyway, thanks for the ideas, I'll take them into account.

I understand what you mean, but it's not actually going to be a russ, just an equivalent. I'll have to use some modelling plastic to make the side sponsons look more believeable. It's hard to explain what I have in mind through typing but yeah.

Also, I want to use a modern tank because it's lower than the leman russ and, in my opinion, looks better.

Anyway, thanks for the ideas, I'll take them into account.

And my answer to this is: Please consider that a normal tank kit has a lot more and crisper (is that a word?) details than anything GW has ever produced. Despite them saying that their latest releases have such incredible level of detailing and so on...
This will make your converted tank look out of place. It would be like starship Enterprise put in a Star Wars movie. A spaceship is a spaceship, but placed in the wrong universe it will just look, well, misplaced...

And the thing with one design looking better than another - Luftwaffe pilot: "I want my Me-109 built to look like a Spitfire, just cause I like the looks of the Spit better..."

Just my opinion. If you desperatly want to convert a modern tank into a count-as-Russ, then feel free to do so. We're living in a free(?) world after all...

And my answer to this is: Please consider that a normal tank kit has a lot more and crisper (is that a word?) details than anything GW has ever produced. Despite them saying that their latest releases have such incredible level of detailing and so on...

Case in point: I've got a 1/35 Panzer IV-D on my workbench right now... Just the suspension and drive wheels consists of 280 parts! The padlocks on the turret stowage bin (remember, 1/35 scale) are made up of 7 separate pieces! Heck, it has 2 different sets of separate, individual gas caps!!!

And all that for $10 less than a Predator...


But enough of that, back to the topic at hand. We can debate the varying scales and their relation to GW's rather indistinct "scale" size all day, but I figure that pictures are probably a better example, so here's some comparison shots out of my in progress pile:

1/72, 1/48, and 1/35 Tigers compared to a Russ, top view. (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a337/Wraith0083/Models/IMG_0166.jpg)

And an angled view. (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a337/Wraith0083/Models/IMG_0167.jpg)

Yes, the detail is a problem.

With this in mind I'll be putting imperial eagles and what-not from FW and various bits I manage to scrounge up to make it fit in more. I might even get a FW vanquisher turret for it.

All this hinges on is if (more so when) I get a paid job.

Thanks again.

EDIT: I suppose I could file some of the really fine details off as well

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a337/Wraith0083/Models/IMG_0166.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a337/Wraith0083/Models/IMG_0167.jpg

Great stuff! As the Tiger is quite a larger tank than the sherman (see this pic:)

http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/Tiger-2-2002-Picz/Tiger2-M4Sherman.jpg
(in this instance it's the king tiger, or tiger II, but the size difference between a tiger II and a Tiger I isn't that great.)

So a 1:48 sherman would probably work.

True, a Sherman would work best.

I'm had a rethink, and with the writing of my fluff (here: http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-army-fluff/115506-havillands-illustrious-fourth.html) tanks seem to be a non issue.

Thanks for the ideas and comments anyway.

Cherrio.