Just thought I'd post two things I hate to hear my opponent say when we're playing a game.

1: He's killing my unit, but it's taking his entire army to do it (you hear this one a lot more in 40K than you do in Fantasy)
-- Of course it is! By statistics, if it take something like 60 Firewarriors to put down a single Necron, is it too hard to just accept that it takes overwhelming force to destroy one unit?

2: Oh no, you've destroyed my 80 point unit!
-- I'm so sick of this sarcastic spat that if I hear it again, I swear I'm going to fist pound that 80 pt unit of zombies. Three ranks, a standard and outnumber is still a threat to my skirmishers, no matter how small the cost is, and the fact that the other option for me to shoot at is T4, heavy armor Grave Guard with regeneration, which do you think I'm gonna shoot at!

Hate: The look of glee in the eyes of my opponent when his Terminators charge towards my Dire Avengers with Shimmershield and Defend Exarch

Love: The look of dread in the eyes of my opponent when his Terminators inflict one unsaved wound to my two and relize his terminators are locked in CC and doomed.

Hate Hate Hate: Beardy cheesy lists that 'force' me to go with if you can't beat them join them. I like fun themed lists but I hate losing horribly more.

Hate:
-People who make comments about Nobs being ungodly good for their cost and what they do. Every time I hear "Nobs need to be toned down" I always respond with "Really?" 3 base attacks + addl combat weapon is pretty close to 2 base + addl combat weapon from a vet sgt huh?" And you have a better armory!

-"I failed to rally by 1, my dice hate me" bring a musician!!

If they win ''Yeah im awesome''

If you win '' Ahh i just had bad dice rolls''

I get this often... Its sad.

I hate people picking your models up without asking you.

I hate being made to re-roll dice if they land on the slightest inclined scenery.

I hate people that act like their measurring out 6" the blattently move 7 and think nothing of it.

Love: When something strange happens, for either player. Insane courage rolls, Needs 6 to hit, 6 to wound, 2+ armour save failed sort of events.

Makes the hobby worth playing and unpredictable

Them:"That rhino actually has my tac squad, not my EC."
Me: "Then why did you deploy it in the HQ phase?"
Them:"..."
Pretty self explanatory.

"What unit is in which raider?"
The last one bugs me the most. If you don't pay attention during my deployment, it's your fault. I always pay attention during theirs.

What Phoenix said

I win - Your list is cheesey, you're a power gamer, my dice rolls suxed
They win - You really could have or should have done this instead, I still think your list is cheesey, my dice rolls still suxed

-.-

hate to hear: "Put your pants back on!"

"I did not see that roll, you must re roll"

and when random people come in and start explaining to you and your opponent how you arn't using your armies correctly... and they are 12.

I think that them not seeing that roll because they're trying to avoid looking at you with no pants on is a legitimate excuse though. You should have to re-roll (after you put your pants back on)

Are we talking freeballin', tightie whities, or boxers?

I'm brand new, I know I suck, but to have some little kid tell me how to play would just push me over the edge I think.

I know "I had bad rolls" people hate to hear, but in a game with dice, having flukey dice can do so much for or against you, dice is TOO big of a part in this game for me I think...

i dunno, having good and bad dice days I think is part of warhammer, and I think it's legitimate reason for winning / losing a game. I do agree though that it can be overused, not because people are cranky when they fail ONE leadership test, but because they get cranky at all - i.e. that they use it as an excuse.

My pet peeve is when people call across the room to 'experts' for rule clarifications eg. I am playing a necron player, I suspect he is not using WWB properly and tell him, so the first thing he does is call across to another Necron Players game and ask him...

I also don't like to hear Mobile phones. normally it's ok, but I know some 'popular' people who's constant phone calls really slow things down, esp. in a big Apocalypse battle or when it's their turn!

Hate
-people who roll their dice at my models in a childish attempt to knock them over (i know three guys who do this)
-people who don't wash properly, and then lean over the table with their arm outstretched...ngh
-people who try to sneak extra points into their army list, just because you don't have that army book (again, i know a couple people who've tried this)
-people who look more like orcs than their model orcs

Hate:Those scarab swarms just did what to my Shas'el?
Love:Those scarab swarms just did that to your Shas'el!

Complaining about bad dice is part of gaming. It is when the tone turns to diminishing the other player that it becomes a problem. "He's not actually a good player, he just always gets lucky when we play each other." "Her army stinks, I just had bad luck."

I actually hate that quite distinct noise a model makes when it hits the floor and break into 500 pieces. You can actually hear the paint tearing.

Genestealers. Nuff said.

Hate: 8-12 year olds.

Love: The sound of a humans jaw hitting the floor when you're Kroot massacre a unit of Beserkers in CC. (Also being outnumbers by the Beserkers doesn't hurt either.)

I hate over the top celebrations for really minor things.

I was playing space hulk the other day and the marine player whooped and punched the air when he killed a stealer. It really started to grate with me. I wiped his squad out to a man over the next 4 turns and didn't do a victory dance, jump up and down or arrange fireworks or anything.

If the above player had won i've no doubt i'd be hearing about it for the next two weeks. It's just a game.

Hmm, these things are peoples psycholgy attacks on you to undermind your faith in your army :P Its dirty tactics but it can work. My faith in my army has near enough disappeared :?

hate:
People telling me Eldar are Gay

Love:
telling people they just lost in 3 turns to a bunch of Gays!

hate: i'm going to beat your dwarves... if you do this i'll do that etc etc etc

love: the look on my oponents face when my dwarf battle line has rolled across the table and destroyed your army in its own deployment zone. (this happens more than people like to think.)

hate: people telling me my army sucks

love: when i prove the otherwise

hate: army stereotyping (dwarves are gunlines, elves are magic etc etc etc)

love: seeing armies that break the trend and do well.

8Y

I actually hate that quite distinct noise a model makes when it hits the floor and break into 500 pieces. You can actually hear the paint tearing.


Out of the small amount of things I truly do hate about the hobby I think this one is the massive universal. The sound of a metal model exploding always brings a small ding on the heart. Nothing beats the 40k chaos daemon prince. This model HAS to be pinned, when it hits the ground it literally explodes i've seen it countless times in the store I frequent. I hate pinning, but I double pinned mine because its a matter of time until "hey can I pick up that cool model" followed by the concussion my the prince on the ground. Chipped paint I can deal with, model in a 12 pieces... heck no.

Out of the small amount of things I truly do hate about the hobby I think this one is the massive universal. The sound of a metal model exploding always brings a small ding on the heart. Nothing beats the 40k chaos daemon prince. This model HAS to be pinned, when it hits the ground it literally explodes i've seen it countless times in the store I frequent. I hate pinning, but I double pinned mine because its a matter of time until "hey can I pick up that cool model" followed by the concussion my the prince on the ground. Chipped paint I can deal with, model in a 12 pieces... heck no.

That's why i'm prescious about my minis. It actually stems from being a guitarist, the amount of times someone says "can i play your guitar" is amazing. My answer started out as "no problem just be careful". Nowadays it's "Ok but know this, you chip it- i chip you. You break it i break you." Seems to do the job.

On the hate side i also hate people making assumptions about your personality based on what army you're playing and people not playing the game bossing my opponent around and playing the game for him.

That's why i'm prescious about my minis. It actually stems from being a guitarist, the amount of times someone says "can i play your guitar" is amazing. My answer started out as "no problem just be careful". Nowadays it's "Ok but know this, you chip it- i chip you. You break it i break you." Seems to do the job.


I completely sympathize with you. I am a banjo player - and play an antique, hand-crafted banjo from the 1950s I inherited from my grandfather. EVERYBODY wants to play it even though 99.9% of the people who want to are guitarists who try to play it like a guitar. Even had one guy tell me "This is weird, I thought banjos had 6 strings and were tuned like guitars..."

Any ways, back to Warhammer - I think, as a general rule, people are saying they dislike poor sportsmanship - and I agree completely. I don't really mind when people revel in their victory, but when they start preaching - "You should drop this unit, you should add this unit, you should have done this or that." I also hate putting metal models together.

I love pretty much everything else about the hobby, but one unusual thing I particularly enjoy is spectacular losses and failures - I just laugh my head off when my chaos lord charges a band of gretchin and dies... (Well, that's never happened, but you get the idea).

On the hate side i also hate people making assumptions about your personality based on what army you're playing and people not playing the game bossing my opponent around and playing the game for him.

I think the one exception is a new player learning the game and asking the other person to help - I'm cool with that. I'll even let them take moves back, go easy on them and carefully explain each of my units. But after one or two games, the gloves come off.

People who make sound effects during games, perhaps I'm just a grouch but I'm 26 you're and adult as well I don't need to hear mock bolter sounds or explosions, there are no small children here, your not getting paid for animated gestures like GW staff...just cut it out.

New players who think that just because they've scanned the rulebook, they have some sort of inside knowledge of how the game works, and proceed to try preaching tactics to anyone who'll listen. I've come across people like this (mostly below the age of 12) a few times, and it makes me grind my teeth. Another thing that annoys me is people picking up my models...particularly my general, which is the best painted and most valuable model I own by far. Luckily I adopt a similar policy to Angry Angels. Strange how few people are willing to pick up my models after threats of broken fingers :D. As an aside, I love the sound of finger bones snapping like brittle twigs - one of the best sounds you can hear at the table 8Y.

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Love: The sound of a humans jaw hitting the floor when you're Kroot massacre a unit of Beserkers in CC. (Also being outnumbers by the Beserkers doesn't hurt either.)

I think that would make my jaw hit the floor, but it will never happen. :happy:

Yeah, I'm just blunt about models. Little kids when I play at a GW come up and ask if they can pick up my Carnifex, and I say "No, you can't."

If even some giant burly evil looking fellow with too many tats came up to me and picked up my model and said HEY WUT IF I DRAWPED THIS DARN TOOTIN' THANG I'd probably man up and tell him to put it the fark down right then and there.

I hate modelling, and painting. It takes me hours to make things look decent. I don't want to be forced to re-do any of it. Seriously.

I guess I only hate to hear "But oh, look he's got bionics, I better make that roll...a six!! Hurray!!"
The laws of statistics seems to somehow have missed out completely on this litttle gizmo.
Unless I instakill or completely pulverize my opponent, they'll just pop right up with nothing mare than a little scratch on their bionic eye or arm. (I do however really think that if I shoot my autocannon in your eye you're dead whether it's a bionical or biological one! )

*end of rant*


Then I, in a more general manner, dislike to hear "oops!" whatever the reason. I know it's something bad.

People who make sound effects during games, perhaps I'm just a grouch but I'm 26 you're and adult as well I don't need to hear mock bolter sounds or explosions, there are no small children here, your not getting paid for animated gestures like GW staff...just cut it out.

I'm 33. What if my models make their own sound effects? ;)

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/rextalon/minis/BB%20Lights/Sound1.jpg

I hate going to GW to play a game against a friend and by the end of round two your playing against everyone in the store.

Sorry this is about what I hate to hear, everyone in the store telling my oponent how to play their game.

Well I've got a terrible rage quitting problem, but I don't have that with warhammer because it's so much easier to accept that its the dice and not my fault ;)

I don't like losing and I love winning more than anything but I'm not bothered with 40k because it is about having fun, and with the amount of work I put into the painting and scenery I've made, I don't want to get pissed off and give it all away.

/rant

I hate going to GW to play a game against a friend and by the end of round two your playing against everyone in the store.

Sorry this is about what I hate to hear, everyone in the store telling my oponent how to play their game.

My god! I hate this too! It turns my blood to pudding and my saliva into mercury!

I hate going to GW to play a game against a friend and by the end of round two your playing against everyone in the store.

Sorry this is about what I hate to hear, everyone in the store telling my oponent how to play their game.

worse is when the entire store is telling you how to play your army!

worse is when the entire store is telling you how to play your army!

Or both and you and your opponent are relegated to mini moving monkeys. You stop and wonder if you're a plane plotter in an old WW2 black and white film.

I can't go into the store anymore let alone play in there!!

I hate people blaming the dice if the dice werent too bad (yeah you failed a Ld test, but youre goblins had passed a terror test etc). I also dont like it if people use dice as an excuse kinda like "you only won coz of the dice" kinda thing.

I do like people laughing at their own misfortune when it comes to dice. I also like it when the dice rolls go so wrong that the opponent acknowledges this and admits that luck had to do with their victory.

I also hate the sound of screaming 12 year olds as their Ultramarine-army-thats-the-best-in-the-universe lose.

I also dont like the staff too much, they just try and sell you anything "buying skinks, why dont you buy an ork mekboy to go with that" but in the store in soton they dont seem ot be anywhere near as bad as in Kingston.

I think my biggest pet peeve in game is when people not in your game come up and start "helping" with rules. Ok, buddy, I have these three books sitting here for a reason. If either myself or my opponent need them, we will OPEN them. We don't need your interpretation of the rules. Not to mention, I have a couple friends that we have a few extra rules (like voluntary fall back...because it makes SENSE to be able to do) and people come up and "correct" us.

I hate hearing you just need a 3+ to save that wound. Its just tempting luck and your opponent says it. So what do you do? You roll a 2 or 1.

I also dont like the staff too much, they just try and sell you anything "buying skinks, why dont you buy an ork mekboy to go with that" but in the store in soton they dont seem ot be anywhere near as bad as in Kingston.


Definatly, I went to a store, brought some models with the only money i had on me and then the counter guy asked me a series ofquestions: "You got paint for those models?" Yep "You got the rule book?" Yep "You got the glue to make 'em?" Yep "You got a white dawrf with the lizzie vs dark elves battle report?" No but I'm out of money. "You sure?" Yep.

Its not that I wouldn't like to buy more of what i already have (who doesn't0 but I'd already decided to buy the models I bought before I went to the store.

I haven’t encountered problems with the staff on a hard sell but I’m not a newbie or 14 so the crap wouldn’t wash.

I have forgotten glue a time or two and am happy when they ask me if I need glue etc.

Originally Posted by RexTalon
I'm 33. What if my models make their own sound effects?


I would probably be to amazed to protest.

First time I ever saw Tau on the battlefield.
Him- "All right, each of these guys has three attacks." (Referring to gun drones)
Me- looks at gun drones "Can I see your army book?"
Him- "No."

"I don't have my Codex, but trust me this unit does this ridiculous shit I'm saying it does"

Hate: People making sound effects and gloating over minor things during games

Love: Smiling disarmingly and asking, "are you sure you want to move that squad into line of sight with my two Baal Predators just to get rid of five measly Assault Marines?

Hate: People throwing dice at my models, people who think they know the rules better than I do and rule lawyers.

I hate:
People who get p*ssed off when i refer to the rule book
Liers
The price of the models!
Painting white :z
Small children
People who insult my army and models when my army looks and plays much better than theres.
Spectators, especially ones that warn my opponent of my traps etc..

worse is when the entire store is telling you how to play your army!

You don't want to know how many times people came up to me to tell me "you shouldn't assault that chaos lord" "you shouldn't shoot those crons, you should just assault" Bla bla bla. Turns out, when I don't take their advice I get the upperhand. Then again I am insane...

And the "buy this" employees, I just say "Well I got all that I need, time to go." pay for the stuff and bolt out of there.

Love:

The change in expression of the opponent when they realize that they only had the upper hand for a few turns.
Fairly even games.
Knowing the staff personally, and that they know you such that they don't pester you.
The improbable happening.
Good sportsmanship.
Having others who have the rules in their head more than me and I can get the answer I need quickly. I don't like having to do it, just that it's nice to have those people around every now and then.
When people neutralize a unit or target that they thought was superior to a different unit.

Hate:

Tailored lists.
Power gaming, cheesy and beardy cheesy lists.
One sided games.
As stated before, the breaking of models. I have this automatic empathy shock that hits me anytime something like that happens. It varies in degree depending on how ornate the model was.
Magic the Gathering players using the folding tables that support our playing fields.
Well known players making up rules as they go. (A particular tau player at my club was known to do this).
Not having the time/money to make a good field and some good terrain.

Tolerable:

Describing the scene that just happened to some independent character.
Good/bad puns.
Quotes. I personally like to quote Phil Ken Sebben, "HA HA! _______."

That about covers everything. Maybe some will turn up as I continue enjoying the hobby.

I also hate the sound of screaming 12 year olds as their Ultramarine-army-thats-the-best-in-the-universe lose.


I actually find that to be very entertaining. :P

Love-
People watching my games and not talking about what strategies I should be using.
People who don't make excuses whether they win or lose.


Hate-
People telling me "well with imperial guard you should stand and fire". What really and here I was going to run across the board and charge your assault terminators.

At Tournaments being told "You should not have move forward with your guard". Ok I guess I will sit back while you take all of the objectives unopposed.

Love-
People watching my games and not talking about what strategies I should be using.


I'd just say "Look, GUY - if that is your real name, I'm brand new at this game, I don't care if I win or lose - It's just a game so I won't be listening to anything you tell me so just keep it to yourself because I'm not going to learn from your mouth.

When I first started as well, I went into the store, the guy knew that me and my brother were brand new to the hobby, as I told him that, I hadn't even bought an army yet and he was trying to sell me abbadon, I told him I wasn't interested but then he kept going on about how many wars he has been through and leader of the black crusade and what not, not to mention I told him money was tight to just buy basic kits for now, but that wasn't enough to stop...

oop, thought of another one:

"that (unit / model / tactic) doesn't really fit your armies fluff, I'm giving you two out of 5 for composition". That really grates me, espeacially if it is a Tree spirirt army with One elven mage (who had the Tree spirit rule anyway!).

Hate: People with commissioned armies. Not being disrespectful to the original artist, just the type of people who tend to buy their armies and then tend to be really snobbish and insulting to you because you decided to paint your own models, saying how they aren't up to the near-GD quality of their own purchased mini's that they didn't do anything to apart from bring them to the store.

Hate - 3rd, 4th and 5th Gen Slann

- People telling me it's unfluffy to take a 2nd Gen Slann in 2k points

- People telling me it's not wise to take a 2nd Gen Slann in 2k points as it's all my eggs in
one basket

- People saying it's cheesy to take a 2nd Gen Slann in 2k points


Love - Watching a 2nd Gen Slann destroy an entire army

Hate:
*people putting down painting and stragegys that either me or my partners(I know that my old models suck but geez, I can't stand critics!)

* people believe things that they first hear and stick with it!

* people who just get mad and start acting like total jacks

* people telling me to reroll dice, or it's fine even though it's not!

*( most irrritating) people who says that I already did my attacks even though I didn't.

*people quitting

Love:
* taking out the people's "prized and most valuable models"( not model wise but rulewise) whether they're from lovable people or jacks.

* good, fair games

* tag team games

Tolerate:
* people abandoning tag team games

*bad dice rolls ( a lot will cause a problem)

* Phoenix :P ( joking bud0:)

* retarted threads, this does not count as one8X

People who conveinetenly forget to use a power, then say he has to go back and do it when it looks like they are in trouble.


Case in point, I was just playing a SoB player. I had lashed a unit of his out of cover and into rapid fire range of TS. He however claims he didnt know i was using a psykik power even though he saw me make the psykik test. Someone saw this and agrees with me on this.

Yeah, I witnessed that...the guy wouldn't even take the move back when we confronted him

Hate:

That I'm a girl and I need to be instructed on how to play my own friggin' army

That I'm a girl so I MUST play Sisters of Battle (the fact that I do is irrelevant and annoys me even more)

That I'm a girl, but I only won because of luck

That I'm a girl, but I only won because the big, strong man went easy on me, didn't try, etc.

Hearing "rending on genestealers is cheesey!" coming from a Marine player with 12+ assault cannons in his army

Suddenly becoming the center of attention because I have breasts and good grooming (though I'm never in shortage of games)

When people get pissy because I don't want to play against a certain army (or player) for a certain reason--like the seventh marine army in a row, or another gunlining Tau/IG army, etc.

Likes:

Stomping chauvinists/elitists into paste.

People who, after losing with their 'light' lists (but letting me win, of course) decide to use min-maxing powergaming lists...and who lose anyway to the exact list as before.

When EVERYONE rolls badly--lots of 1s, missing constantly with SMurf lascannons, scattering basilisk shots onto your own troops, genestealers losing combat to firewarriors then getting caught in a sweeping advance, etc. Those are freakin' hilarious.

Fluffy/themed armies. Anything but the min-max crap I usually face!

Love: When the enemy's plasma weapons start exploding. :D

Hate: When people state and play with rules they have not read and just heard from one of thier friends (Especially if they are 12 or below).

Love: Pointing out the correct rule in the rulebook (Especially if they are 12 or below).:party:

Hate: When they continue to follow through with thier friends rule (Especially if they are 12 or below).

Hate: When people start sulking when I am winning and swear every time I kill a model (Especially if they are 13 or above).

The last one really gets on my nerves. When it is obvious I am losing I try and be the best sportsman I can. The last one also gets worse if they start laughing in my face or dancing when they manage to kill one of my men.

Suddenly becoming the center of attention because I have breasts and good grooming (though I'm never in shortage of games)



Come on, there has to be at least on fat guy there with manbreast that, wait, eww.... nvm...

I also hate it when people come and try telling an opponent what to do, especially when said opponent is over 13 and actually knows how to play better than the advice givers.

again, "buy this!" employees...

That or you have just manouvered someone into a carefully laid trap and some complete @#^@%#&$@&$ comes along and says "I wouldn't move there, this unit blah blah blah" I mean chrisake just play your own damn game!

Hate: When I have to correct an opponent almost every other turn because he seems to be trying to play by the last edition rules. I slows down the game, sucks the fun right out of it and makes me look like a git in the proceess no matter how politely I do it.

Hate: When I know more about my opponents army then he does and I don't even on the book. (Sadly I have had this happen more then once)

Love: When the improbable happens to either side. Good or bad it is always amusing to stand jaw agape at what just happened that should not have.

Love: When a normal bezerker and a P-fisted champ are in CC with an undamaged dready, and the normal Bez rolls a six to hit, six to penetrate and a six on the damage table, to kill the dreadnaught, so the nice Champion can attack the Librarian. (happened) The consolidation move was 1 inch, as I rolled badly. I just put the killing Bez onto the dreadnought, as a sign of disrespect.

Hate: My land raider being blown up first turn when I have not had a move. (happened)

Hate: Abaddon being pushed off the table by a friend misunderstanding the nightbringer's special rules! (happened)

I hate people picking your models up without asking you.


This is what inflames me too, i spend a hell of a lot of time on that model, GET YOUR GRUBBY GREASE-STAINED 13 YEAR PAW'S OFF OF 'EM!

This is what inflames me too, i spend a hell of a lot of time on that model, GET YOUR GRUBBY GREASE-STAINED 13 YEAR PAW'S OFF OF 'EM!

Noiw this is why people should play dark eldar, all spiky so nobody wants to touch them!

I hate when people tell me what I should have done with my army during the game, i dont care- i will play like I want to play.

My other major hate is people who stink of sweat- I know that isnt anything they are saying but it speak volumes for the individual, and I feel like a sweaty nerd by association- deodorant isnt expensive or hard to use guys...

I'm 33. What if my models make their own sound effects?


I bow down to your greatness.
I gave my 12yo cousin a electronic gun noise maker - I don't feel bad as he plays in store and i don't, (well not his anyway) and i didn't approve of their purchasing advice for him.
Considered doing something noisy myself - like a click down button on a tank driver to play ride of the valkeries (or long, pompous classical music) on a baneblade.
I decided to be be even more shocking and paint it yellow instead. (imp fists)
there was a great post in chainsword & bolter on lighting up a land raider

I bow down to your greatness.
I gave my 12yo cousin a electronic gun noise maker - I don't feel bad as he plays in store and i don't, (well not his anyway) and i didn't approve of their purchasing advice for him.
Considered doing something noisy myself - like a click down button on a tank driver to play ride of the valkeries (or long, pompous classical music) on a baneblade.
I decided to be be even more shocking and paint it yellow instead. (imp fists)
there was a great post in chainsword & bolter on lighting up a land raider

You could make it a scally mobile with a blue underlight and hydralic brakes

Hate:
- Rolling a one a fleet or charging into cover when you needed to roll at least a 2.
- That bad fleet/charging roll actually cost you the game. Even why my opponent rolls bad.
- People who brag about how they can beat anyone.
- Bad luck.

Love:
- Seeing the person who brags about how they can beat anyone get beat by a new player.
- Games that come down to the last turn for who wins and who loses.
- Seeing people of different race/religion/sex/background all come together to play a game we all love.

Hate:
- A draw. Both sides either killed or survived. But within a certain margin that says that both
sides have won/lost.
- Knowing your opponents army better than he/she does, and getting in an argument about
his/her list or rules, conceding because you want the game to stay fun, losing the game
because you conceded during the argument, learning in hindsight that you were right all
along (this happens way too often to me).
- Opponents saying (or worse: yelling) what you are going to roll. Example: I charged my Daemon Prince into the side of a Leman Russ. All attacks hit, and I penetrate five times.
My opponent then says: "And now you will roll nothing but 1s and 2s." Guess what I rolled.
This is even more annoying when it's during game-deciding moments.
- Bystanders, watchers, passerby's, etc. commenting on how you are playing or 'giving
advice'.
- I build my armies around calculations and statistics (after fluff). So when you manage to MISS WITH EVERYTHING in a 1500 pts. Iron Warriors army (around 30 bodies and 5 mechs)
when everything could shoot, you get a little down.

Love:
- Without using technical terms, without forcing rulebooks/WD's under their nose, without
telling them how great the hobby is, getting other people started with Warhammer.
I usually give a short description, let them watch and if they want, play a test game or
two, explain them about the investments they need to make, but also about the fun it's
going to bring. I welcomed about four others into the hobby this way.
- Wiping your opponent's army off the table at the end of turn four in a Seek and Destroy
scenario and with that, winning the tourney. This battle also saw two arguments about the
rules, in which I conceded and afterwards learned about that I was right after all, so that
made it all the better.
- Warhammer 40k. I love the rules and love (most of) the armies involved.

Hate:
- Rolling a one a fleet or charging into cover when you needed to roll at least a 2.

I hate it when you fleet your hormagaunts - and get a 2
and then fleet your stealers and get a 5
when the stealers are behind the hormagaunts -- makes for a really big and mess move and a really great pieplate target!

Theres a few things I hate during games...

1. Eldar players telling me Monoliths are unbalanced.

2. Eldar players telling me Necrons are too good at shooting.

3. When people generally trash on Necrons, it bothers me that people are so quick to judge a army by reading the codex.

4. Just argueing in games, especially if its a friend... but that happens very rarely now.


LOVE

1. The sound of someone saying "yes! my assault squad finally got out of combat with your scarabs! *the sound of rapid fire against power armour*

2. Seeing a TON of sixes when I roll for my 'stealer's rending

3. Seeing sixes when my Necrons roll for glancing hits.

4. A fast assault army not being able to catch up to my Necrons.

Kantoken seems to have captured my feelings on this perfectly.

I generally play in a friendly spirit, but I tend to become a bit exasperated when I fire every last gun at my army, and miss/fail to accomplish anything with every last shot. Tolerable, and even funny if something similar happens to my opponent. Absolutely infuriating when they then proceed to roll straight 6s with a load of rending weapons then prance around at the amount of death caused.

Like:

Getting new players into the game because they see the games between my friends and think they are awesome.
Fun, friendly games between my friends, with fluffy/normal lists or crazy scenerios thought up to play.
Making unique fun models for my army.Hate:

When players with old edition experience refuse to adapt to the new rules, and try to drag things into the game that don't currently exist in order to get a tactical advantage. I'll let them take the move back sometimes, if they just forgot the rule changed, but if they insist I allow them to use the old rule it annoys me.
See above, but its a "house rule they ALWAYS play with".
When players are so jaded any comment toward them is an annoyance. "Hey man, that's so cool, how.." "Shut up."
Having my army trashed because it doesn't fit my opponent's views on how it should "properly" look.
Obvious, deliberate cheating. I never knew Disintegrators were Large Blast or DE were BS 5!Must Resist Urge to Murder For:

After catching my opponent in obvious, deliberate cheats multiple times throughout the game, listening to him whine and refuse to obey the actual rules, etc...I pack up my stuff, then get told I am a bad sport for not putting up with it. :X
Having the GW staff worker punch in my 1 can of primer and 1 thing of paint as $41.00 instead of $14.00. After having my checking account overdrawn (only $30.00 in it) due to this mistake, the workers and CS both claim no responsibility over the mistake and refuse any reimbursement.

"You're codex is going to be changed in X way when it gets updated next so you might as well play it that way now."

I hear this arguement too bloody much, usually in relation to my (Dark Eldar) abilities getting nerfed in some silly way. Most commonly, people are so insistent that my Wyches combat drug ability that says "You always attack first in assault" ability really doesn't mean "you go first" because the Eldar were nerfed in that way too. It makes about as much sense as saying "Since CSMs got Bolters, Pistols, two types of grenades, AND a CC wep for free when their codex got updated, then regular space marines should get all that for free since they'll probably be updated that way too." (Meanwhile ignoring the points cost changes and how the aspiring champion lost most of his upgrades)


Long story short: If the codex hasn't been changed yet, DON'T TREAT IT LIKE IT HAS!

Love:
Watching tailored armies lose to me, or anyone else that they were tailored for for that matter.
Someone calling me out on a rule that I know is true and can instantly show them the page.

Hate:
Someone then calling that rule unfair, or cheap, even if it's something really basic (you can charge out of an open topped vehicle? That's so cheap! Since when did your powerfist nob not have to be in btb with an enemy model to get his attacks? That's so unfair!)

Love:
Conversions (mine and not-mine)
Putting my better painted stuff in the showcase at my local independant retailer (makes me feel good, considering that ive only finished about 50 minis)
finding out the depth of bit swapping awesomeness of o&g and Orks
watching night goblins tear apart dwarfs and elves
unexpected things like the above
My local independant retailer. 20% off of ALL GW stuff!:party:

Hate:
models that need pinning
40k players who spell 'orc' (fantasy) 'ork'
orks =/= orcs and goblins
people who think fantasy players have codecies. we have ARMY BOOKS
people who break all three of those in one fell swoop (especially on the internet)
GW staff putting the hard-sell on me (while you are buying those lootas, check out abaddon!(sorry to chaos players if I spelled that wrong))
proxying (land raider = monolith? I think not)
CMON (in a good way) it makes me fell like I suck at painting
gunlines... wimps (only if your army is proficiant at CC. Tau are excluded)
when I go to get something (dice that fell of the table) my opponents army has suddenly moved up 2 inches and half of my army is suddenly dead.

Like:
- People who don't know their own rules.

- People who make up insanely stupid overpowered rules for one Item of wargear and yet don't know that their Tomb Spyders are monstrous creatures.

- People who get angry at you and refuse to listen when you point out a rule and show that what they are doing is illegal.

- Cheer squads, for either side, particularly if they are under 12.

- People who tell you that you should have collected this army.

- Sore losers that get sulky when annihilate yet another one of their squads in a single round of shooting.

- Borrowing someones Codex and finding out that they have been cheating for years.

- People who stand beside the tabel and make comments in really annoying tones with no intention of trying to help like this:
"Why didn't you get this model? It's awesome."
"Move these guys here so you can do this."
"Don't move these guys here."
"Why did you get that model/upgrade/wargear"
"You should have gotten one of these"
"If you do that then he (you) will do this"
"Use this power!"
"If you don't buy 3 fire prisms I'll bash you"
"Ultramarines Rock!"
"Why did you get eldar? They suck!"

- Opponents that say things like this:
"My Lord has six arms so I can choose which ones I want to use at the start of the battle (then changing his mind whenever it profits him most)"
"Your army looks like it has too many points (Then proceeds to remove all your good models from the table leaving you with half his points, or anything that can wound his lord)"
"I forgot my codex, all my units have a 4+ invulnerable save becuase my lord has a res. orb."
"My monolith is indestructable and immune to all damage rolls."

Like:
- Fair player that are permantly in good humour.
- Followed rules, fair games, fun times and worthy opponents.
- Unlikely, yet entertaining, things happening.
_ My army killing twice it's points before taking a wound 8X:C.

I hate when people roll dice behind hills, buildings, rocks, bunkers, etc, to hide the results and tell you whatever they want to when you ask what they got.

Hate it. :(

I also hate losing to someone, who you normally defeat every time, for the first time and never hearing the end of it.

Shiz_Vaerth, you like those things? ;o

...

Alright then, you are a very nice gamer. ;Y

I hate being the veteran 40k player, you think it's annoying when people yell across the store to ask someone about a rule, try being the person they're yelling at for said rule. It really sucks! That and people that only go on about tournaments, or overly competitive people, it's just annoying when you can't tell the difference between a friendly game and a competition.