Today I headed down to the local gamesworkshop to get into an apocalypse game (not to play, to watch), I didn't want to get involved because I expected the painting standards to be incredibly high to play on a GW made table...

I get there after waiting for 2 weeks and it turns out there is all kids, about 10 of them from age 8 - 15 at the most, and even then there was only one id say was over 13.

I've noticed a lot of you say you like this game because it excludes little kids from playing because of the high prices but I guess you never realized there is a lot of spoiled brats out there getting all they want.
A few of the kids were little sooks, one went off at his mate on the same side because he didn't fire his whirlwind, even though he had no LOS and it was the enemies turn at the time.

I'd like to know how these kids find the time to paint and make all these, and how a parent would dare spend 700$ on an army for their kid made of little plastic models.
One of the much older kids had a necron and eldar army, probably both around 1250 if he used everything and with upgrades and I just don't know how they do it.

I think this has been more of a rant than anything but there is one more thing I'd like to say before anyone goes to read other bits and pieces.


One of the GW employees came back from lunch or whatever, painting some dwarfs on the table I watched him while he licked the brush, put most of the paint on a GW bag then wiped what was left on his finger, I said (without any attitude at all, merely trying to be friendly) "it's weird watching how other people paint", without even looking at me he goes "WHAT? it's weird using a brush" in the biggest ass-hole tone he could conjure.

At that point I let him be in his little dream world where he can be a jerk all he wants.

Is what I said so easy to take out of context? Is this how everyone paints? Or was this guy just a big nob?

Well, techinally you did pretty much say his painting style was weird. It would be like me telling you, "It's weird watching how you walk."


As for those kids... I wish I was a spoiled brat when I was a kid. All I got was a lego set for the usual christmas. And socks. :c

ONLY LEGOS? ONLY!!??! Legos rule. There is not such thing as ONLY legos. LEGOS > GW.

As to the original poster the people you run into vary depending on where you go. I live in a midsized town and there are maybe 5 stores total that carry GW stuff and only two or three where you can play games. One is a giant Hobby Lobby/Hobby Town and the place is always packed with screaming brats in need of serious parental guidance. The second place in my town is this independant gaming store. Its located in an out of the way old strip mall and more than half of the store is gaming and painting tables. Better yet the crowd is very mature with us 20 somethings being on the younger end of the spectrum though there are a few teens and tweens. The store owner rocks, every time I go in there I end up talking to him for 30 mins to an hour about new armies, old armies, painting, upcomming tournaments whatever. Granted prices are a bit more than I would pay elswhere, but I am more than willing to pay the extra to support a local business rather than some corporate chain.

Why is it bad if kids play GW? I don't see what's wrong with all these kids having big armies either? What exactly is this rant about?

And what is paticularly wrong with this? There is good and bad, like everything else.

I go down to my Local games workshop, and I play a game. There are occasionally a few very young (aged 5-8) children there. They may need help with the rules, but that is to be expected. Is there anything overly wrong about them enjoying the hobby?

I can understand if the person is overly unknowledgeable, or arrogant, but normal kids are okay.

As for the GW employee, generally it is best to buy something before saying "You paint weird". It just gets them to think more of you.

Ah well. Next time, join in the game.

ONLY LEGOS? ONLY!!??! Legos rule. There is not such thing as ONLY legos. LEGOS > GW.


I meant no disrespect towards Lego, it's just that... it was only one set. Just one. I needed more of those wonderous blocks not one every blue moon. D:

(Course then along came the Nintendo, and... the chaotic creativity of Lego is fun, but when you make up your own rules it wasn't really much of a challenge. :p )

...

Ehm, anyways, besides me derailing the thread...

It's not bad to have a couple of those underdeveloped human spawn adorable children playing warhammer, but when you have a room full of them without adult supervision and taser use on them is frowned upon, well...

My only problem with GW's, really, is how they treat ladies, i just stopped taking my GF with me into the GW because it was embarrassing, it was almost like harassement and i've seen em do it too other females too.

i also lick my paintbrush when painting. it keeps the bristles together and also wets the paint just a little bit more making the paint a little easier to paint onto the mini.

The little kids playing apocalypse shouldnt bother you that much. at least that way we can see that the game will carry on and these people will be the future.

you should be happy for them =] enjoying the game that we all enjoy so much

-Tib

My only problem with GW's, really, is how they treat ladies, i just stopped taking my GF with me into the GW because it was embarrassing, it was almost like harassement and i've seen em do it too other females too.

I take my girlfriend to almost all of my games at GW and i've never had problems... Once this guy tried to pick her up but then he saw she was with me and that was it. How did they treat females at your gw?

i don't lick the paintbrush, isn't paint, uhm... toxic? lol

I do do something similiar, i have one of those yellow cleaning cloths and i slightly wet that and "lick" my brush with that.

My only problem with GW's, really, is how they treat ladies, i just stopped taking my GF with me into the GW because it was embarrassing, it was almost like harassement and i've seen em do it too other females too.

;o

Your GW store staff harasses ladies? Come on GW, what are you thinking!!

My three little sisters and little brother ALL are interested in the Warhammer hobbies, yeah most of them are under the age of 11 but, you'd be surprised by the amount of luck that they have when playing games (either that or I'm cursed...).

My local club here in the UK have mostly kids and a few adults and the majority of them make a good challenge or good practice. There are times when I feel like a complete nob standing amongst these hordes and I get some weird glances from their parents. Thank God I'm one of the Club's crew!
Here's my question to all those 20+'s out there; When and if you're standing amongst these kids in you local stores, do you feel... well... out of place? (I don't want to say the title of these certain types of people, you know, the really sick kind :X).
I joined the hobby mainly because it interests me plus there was a community back then, that was comfortable for my age, back in the day when an honest man or woman could chill out with a wargame and have that chance to escape life for about 2-3 hours. Now that is starting to dissipate, we now have all these screaming kids running around us, hyped up on coke and ice cream. Sure we have our places to get away from them but, will it actually last? Barely, would be my answer :)

Back on topic; I don't know what your local GW staff were thinking but they really shouldn't pick on ladies like that. It's really bad for the companie's customer satisfaction towards women, pretty sexist of them IMHO.
Besides, scaring women away from the hobby would make us men, in general, look more bad in their eyes as well as have a serious impact on the lady factor ;), know what I mean? :D


-Kai-Itza-

Why is it bad if kids play GW? I don't see what's wrong with all these kids having big armies either? What exactly is this rant about?

I've just seen all these threads with "gw shouldn't lower prices because it keeps this game out of the reach of the general public" and over and over the topic of keeping out kids or popularity is a big thing in those threads.

Well, techinally you did pretty much say his painting style was weird. It would be like me telling you, "It's weird watching how you walk."

All I did was say "it's weird watching other people paint" just I've never seen anyone paint before... I don't see how its that big of a deal, it was his words after it that got to me... Theres no need to have an attitude, I don't buy anything there anyways cos they always try and sell you a baneblade when you came to get a brush.
As for those kids... I wish I was a spoiled brat when I was a kid. All I got was a lego set for the usual christmas. And socks. :c


Ah well. Next time, join in the game.

I would of but none of the older players turn up with real armies so they had to do rag-tag teams, or else I'd have loved to bring out the old chaos.

Out of 7 armies, 3 were space marines...

i also lick my paintbrush when painting. it keeps the bristles together and also wets the paint just a little bit more making the paint a little easier to paint onto the mini.

The little kids playing apocalypse shouldnt bother you that much. at least that way we can see that the game will carry on and these people will be the future.


It took me about 30 minutes to realize who was actually playing and who was just yelling because they can, 10-12 kids all screaming out "SHOOT THAT" "SHOOT THIS" "ATTACK THAT" it was total disarray.

I don't have anything wrong with kids playing it besides the fact I do wish my parents could of lavished 500$ worth of gifts on me in one go, kids in the store with their already large armies telling their mums what they want next like they need it.

But as I mentioned, A lot of people on these forums when the price debate comes up they always mention its good to keep it out of the hands of the many.

;o

Your GW store staff harasses ladies? Come on GW, what are you thinking!!

Back on topic; I don't know what your local GW staff were thinking but they really shouldn't pick on ladies like that. It's really bad for the companie's customer satisfaction towards women, pretty sexist of them IMHO.
Besides, scaring women away from the hobby would make us men, in general, look more bad in their eyes as well as have a serious impact on the lady factor ;), know what I mean? :D


-Kai-Itza-

It's not as much harassing "go away from here, woman!" but "come here woman, i likes you". The way nerds sometimes get in the presence of real woman and not 1 from the internet ;).

It's not as much harassing "go away from here, woman!" but "come here woman, i likes you". The way nerds sometimes get in the presence of real woman and not 1 from the internet ;).

I'd agree that there is a huge difference between Cyber-girls and real girls, for me and a great many other blokes (I hope), I'd prefer the real thing! 0:


-Kai-Itza-

The GW i go to has it's share of kids, there are a few of them who play, and there pretty annoying, but for the most part the real gamers are older. There are a few guys in there teens about 14-15 and there pretty cool guys, and there are a few older ones, and then a few older vets like me hanging around. We have a few large battles going on every once in a while, and our turn out is a fairly older crowd, we mainly get the little kids out for the megabattles and stuff like that.

As for women in our shop, we get a fair amount coming in, there not treated any different really, most of the women don't play but there are a couple who do, and they just come to hang out because they have friends or boyfriends who play and what not, we all talk and mingle amongst each other and what not, we don't have any problem with making women feel unwelcome or uncomfortable, some of them really enjoy being in the store.

I take my girlfriend to almost all of my games at GW and i've never had problems... Once this guy tried to pick her up but then he saw she was with me and that was it. How did they treat females at your gw?

It's not something I've ever had done to me (I keep my intimate relationships completely separate from my social circles and hobbies) but I was at an amateur tournament once and witnessed an epic boondoggle on the table next to mine. Apparently some kid (he was like 15) decided it'd impress his mates if he copped a feel on this girl who was, naturally, with her boyfriend. She was 23 or something, and absolutely mortified. The boyfriend, who was basically a grown-up nerd with the muscle mass of a starved chimp, naturally chucked a spaz. I saw the kid hi-fiving his mates afterwards and I wanted to punch him. Stupid bloody attitude.

That's the worst I've ever seen, but there's definitely a mood that comes into a room full of Warhammer geeks when even a moderately attractive woman enters. Sort of a Quest for Fire caveman mentality. All of the sudden the penis is making all the decisions the brain should be making. It's not a Warhammer thing, it's just a geek thing; the same stuff happens at lans and in pen-and-paper groups.

i hardly go to the GW to play anymore since the majority of nerds and geeks there annoy me. just to buy stuff. i want to start a gaming club someday though.

Hehe, I glad we don't have any of these issues at my local independent hobby shop.

My wife (or any other players' significant other) wouldn't be caught dead sitting around watchin' nerd games.

I myself have never played a game with anyone not at least in high school. Though I wouldn't mind too much; it would be nice to mentor future nerds into not being douche bags.

Its kinda weird that being 25, I feel kinda in the middle of our usual group's age range. We have anywhere from teenagers to guys in their mid-forties.

I don't care how old the players are (though I agree no 10-year-old's parents should be spoiled to death with $750 armies), as I have seen all sorts of mature and immature behavior, and it didn't necessarily match the physical maturity of the individuals in question.

There's one GW employee who I was talking to once in a store who looked at the back of the room, where a group of "children" (age 14 and under) making all sort of silly, obnoxious, non-game-related noises at a really high volume and murmur, "$^#@& Muppets..."

Then there was the mega-battle I attended once at that same place, where two players on opposite sides of one table, both with beautifully-painted models. One was (I'm guessing) no younger than 25, and the other had a good 10-15 years on him, and these two guys, possibly the oldest players at the game (about 20-30 people in total), started bickering like sixth graders. No kidding. One actually shouted, "I'll EXPECT your APOLOGY now!" at the top of his lungs while the other one smiled and shook his head, looking down his nose at him. Babies. It got to the point where a GW staff member had to practically drag them both by the ears out of the room to lecture them.

As they walked out, a "less mature" 16-year-old who witnessed all this looked at me and mouthed, "Wow!"

Apparently some kid (he was like 15) decided it'd impress his mates if he copped a feel on this girl who was, naturally, with her boyfriend. She was 23 or something, and absolutely mortified. The boyfriend, who was basically a grown-up nerd with the muscle mass of a starved chimp, naturally chucked a spaz. I saw the kid hi-fiving his mates afterwards and I wanted to punch him.

Man if that were me, I'd Slap the little S*** and drag him out of there. Though, I'd get kicked out meself for showing a backbone. :P - nobody's too old for a slap ;)

IMO it's better than being a rat...


-Kai-Itza-

I do not mind the younger players just from the standpoint that companies need to attract younger players to keep in business as old vets generally have all the miniatures they need and the company is not going to make a whole lot more money off that person. Which is why new editions to the rules are released etc as a means of sustaining profits. I believe I started playing Warhammer Fantasy back when I was 14 or so, and at the gaming store I'd play at I was pretty much the youngest player. I would feel a little awkward about playing games with the younger kids though if I was the only 20+ player there however.

When I started playing WHFB there really weren't any Battle Bunkers and the sort in my area, and I only found out I had a battle bunker near me about 8 months ago as I had been away from the hobby for a while. So I'm really happy to see that a hobby I've enjoyed for over twelve years has expanded. Though I really have to wonder why GW miniatures seem to cost so much more now than they did then. As alot of things are made of plastic now when the majority was all pewter.

As a 'younger' player, I feel almost obliged to comment. In the store I go to, most of the people are roughly 18ish, or in that area. We have a significant number of people in the 13-19 age range, a few in their twenties, and not too many above that. We do have little kids, but they rather thankfully keep to themselves in the corner playing LOTR. Since no one else in the store but them plays it, there have never been any problems, but they can get a tad loud sometimes. But I've never seen one shamefully spoiled either.
Towards Women: Guys have absolutely no problem brining in their girlfriends, but wives tend to stay away. I speak for almost the lot of the >15 age range when I say that we do not gawk or anything like that, no do or say anything inappropriate.
Trust me, we're not all bad.

I'd agree that there is a huge difference between Cyber-girls and real girls

What's a girl?

One of the GW employees came back from lunch or whatever, painting some dwarfs on the table I watched him while he licked the brush, put most of the paint on a GW bag then wiped what was left on his finger, I said (without any attitude at all, merely trying to be friendly) "it's weird watching how other people paint", without even looking at me he goes "WHAT? it's weird using a brush" in the biggest ass-hole tone he could conjure.

At that point I let him be in his little dream world where he can be a jerk all he wants.

Is what I said so easy to take out of context? Is this how everyone paints? Or was this guy just a big nob?

Yea, he's just a nob. You can tell him that from me the next time you see him. ;)

No, I understand what you mean. It can be odd watching other people paint. Watching and picking up on all the different quirks and things that people do, to just observing the looks of peoples faces while they do it.
....at least thats what I think you meant.

I've very rarely come across a rude member of staff before though. But I know theres some out there that somehow feel (Whether they know they are doing it or not) that because they work for the mighty GW, that it suddenly lifts them to the Higher Plains of MORE AWESOME THAN EVERYONE ELSE. Mind you the same can be said about a lot of things in life, and people in general.

Its either that or the guy just doesn't have a cule as to what Customer Service actually means.

I don't have anything wrong with kids playing it besides the fact I do wish my parents could of lavished 500$ worth of gifts on me in one go, kids in the store with their already large armies telling their mums what they want next like they need it.

LOL - just wait till the reality of recession settles in with those moms this year :P

I have seen my share of young'ns (>13) more than I care about at the local GW. Spoiled is what my kids won't be. 'Gimme' items will be kept to a minimum, it's just simple economics and growing up; you can't have everything. There's the same problem with airsoft, but that's more maturity.

Also, about our GW, they let unpainted armies play almost all the time. They encourage painted armies, but they don't ban naked armies.

On women, as far as I know the rules are: No wommenz on the internet (jk) and just treat them like anyone else. Just 'cause they're a girl doesn't mean you have to suck up to them. I've seen some girlfriends and single girls of several ages at GW. I think it's a decent way to meet girls, but if you approach them, do your research first. Don't end up trying to steal someone. Also, you're at GW, not a bar, you're there to play warhammer and socialize.

Then there was the mega-battle I attended once at that same place, where two players on opposite sides of one table, both with beautifully-painted models. One was (I'm guessing) no younger than 25, and the other had a good 10-15 years on him, and these two guys, possibly the oldest players at the game (about 20-30 people in total), started bickering like sixth graders. No kidding. One actually shouted, "I'll EXPECT your APOLOGY now!" at the top of his lungs while the other one smiled and shook his head, looking down his nose at him. Babies. It got to the point where a GW staff member had to practically drag them both by the ears out of the room to lecture them.

As they walked out, a "less mature" 16-year-old who witnessed all this looked at me and mouthed, "Wow!"

Sometimes people are just idiots, no matter the age.

I have seen my share of young'ns (>13) more than I care about at the local GW. Spoiled is what my kids won't be. 'Gimme' items will be kept to a minimum, it's just simple economics and growing up; you can't have everything. There's the same problem with airsoft, but that's more maturity.


Yeah I agree, I was given a bare minimum as a kid and I understand the worth of things for it.


Also, about our GW, they let unpainted armies play almost all the time. They encourage painted armies, but they don't ban naked armies.


I once rang up on behalf of a LO member to our local GW to ask if they allowed unpainted armies and he said "no, no painted armies on the tables."

there was one kid there that had some unpainted eldar but I guess the store guy knew most of these kids well he knew them all on a first name basis and seemed close to them to know what armies most of them had played.

One kid, not too young had a predator with everything on it, probably cost like 200 points or more but it was painted so badly, with lines intersecting another and nothing on it was smooth.

I'm not saying "oh hes a kid he can't paint." because one of the under 10's had this beautiful nid army, it was light blue armor on a white base and it looked fantastic and most of the other kids did better jobs than me.

Yea, he's just a nob. You can tell him that from me the next time you see him. ;)

No, I understand what you mean. It can be odd watching other people paint. Watching and picking up on all the different quirks and things that people do, to just observing the looks of peoples faces while they do it.
....at least thats what I think you meant.


I'm so glad someone gets me, when I paint I put it on the brush, wipe whats left away on the lid and paint, I don't have a series of quirks, as you put it, to do before each stroke it just seems a little weird and I'm sure an attitude change would help him, if I go there again and hes there I won't be talking to him I'll make sure one of the other guys gets my sale (IF I buy.)

I had one more thing to rant about but I forgot during that last paragraph.

I'm so glad someone gets me, when I paint I put it on the brush, wipe whats left away on the lid and paint, I don't have a series of quirks, as you put it, to do before each stroke it just seems a little weird and I'm sure an attitude change would help him, if I go there again and hes there I won't be talking to him I'll make sure one of the other guys gets my sale (IF I buy.)


Yea. Mind you, its not that I find other peoples way of painting odd or weird. just everyone has their own ways of doing it.
The quirks are quite funny. For example. if I'm trying to do fine detail stuff or free hand, I often find that my tongue sticks out a little xD

hmm... when i started playing I was 9 or 10. My parents didn't pay for any of it. They actually hated it (until my dad played it and realized it was a tactics game). But there are cheap ways to collect stuff. I learned how to make anything out of the plastic core boxes. I also learned how to trade and coerce the rich kids into giving me anything I wanted. I only paid $60 for a 2,500pt Empire army. My 4k Space Marines only cost me about $150 but I did get some of that for Christmas.
So, for these kids to have gotten so much so fast doesn't really mean they have cash. They probably do, they're probably highly spoiled. But, maybe not.

As for the guy's method of painting: he was licking the brush for two reasons.
The first reason is that you are supposed to wet the brush before you paint with it. Otherwise, the brush loses it's form/tip and wears out quicker.
The reason he used spit is simple really. Saliva is somewhat stickier than water, and it will hold the bristles of the brush together and keep a finer point while he paints.

And I believe GW paints are not toxic (it's not safe for the kiddies, you see...) Not sure about other paints, though I guess it pays to check beforehand if you're worried.

I personally don't lick paint brushes. I may put some saliva on the heel of my non-painting hand, and trail the brush through that, if I really feel the brush is losing its point, but I generally keep the bristles out of my mouth. I do often end up with the handle of the brush in my mouth, though, when I can't be bothered putting it down but need my hands for something. (Yarrr... I'm a paint pirate!)

I know the GW guy was being a bit rude, but really - if there were a bunch of people painting (I can't remember your original story) and you said "It's odd watching people paint" there wouldn't be a problem. You aren't singling anyone out.

If he's the only one painting, then it's equivalent to calling him weird, and I can see how that could irk some people.

At my local store, there are quite a few young children (14 and younger). Sure, I've met some screaming brats, but a lot of them are just young players who need help getting into the game or understanding their army.

Is being a 14- brat any worse than being a 14+ brat? Because some of the older players I meet can be really ***hole-ish.

For example, many of the older players in my area have those god awful min-maxed marine armies (8 man las/plas squads, maximum drop pods, or as many ass cannons as they can pack into their list). These typically aren't fun to play with, and watching a kid who obviously isn't getting everything he wants, who only has a minimum army, getting his ass kicked by someone caring more for winning is just insufferable. So I usually play with them, show them the ropes, help them out with rules, etc. And, generally, they're actually very polite.

Of course, I'm suddenly earning the nickname of 'mom' around the store. x.x

As for how girls are treated in the store, I'm sure it varies from location to location. I had a lot of trouble when I started playing (and I still do, to some extend). However, once the boys start getting whipped in a most testicle-shrinking way, they tend to stop.

Still, the first time I was in a Warhammer hobby store, a girl in her 20s was in tears because some jerk spit on her. I have to admit that that turned me off actually playing the hobby for a few more years.

<rant>
There have been a major rash of annoying tweens (they call themselves. We call them something else).
Myself (aged 17) and my friends, all my age or older, have been driven off by these 8-10 annoying, bickering, obnoxious and un-informed kids, and we now are playing WARMACHINE. It is a relief, because my local PP crowd is very mature and informed. We have actually been discouraging these kids from playing, and will continue to do so. They are mind numbingly annoying. But 40K is the gateway drug of table top gaming for many, many wallets, so they do help keep the industry afloat, or us afloat, in a weird and semi-parasitic metaphorical state.

/rant

I wish you all freedom from the scourge of who we once were.
(Though I was never THAT bad).

It's not something I've ever had done to me (I keep my intimate relationships completely separate from my social circles and hobbies) but I was at an amateur tournament once and witnessed an epic boondoggle on the table next to mine. Apparently some kid (he was like 15) decided it'd impress his mates if he copped a feel on this girl who was, naturally, with her boyfriend. She was 23 or something, and absolutely mortified. The boyfriend, who was basically a grown-up nerd with the muscle mass of a starved chimp, naturally chucked a spaz. I saw the kid hi-fiving his mates afterwards and I wanted to punch him. Stupid bloody attitude.




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See, I am 21, and would have no problem knocking anyone that did something like that to my girlfriend over the head. (Yeah, I might get arrested, but that wouldn't occur to me till it was too late, lol). I am very protective of my girlfriend at games(She plays Chaos, and LARPs, as well as pen-and-paper, and is basicly nerdier then me, plus good looking). I go to her stuff sometimes just to keep the fail-happy nerds off.

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See, I am 21, and would have no problem knocking anyone that did something like that to my girlfriend over the head. (Yeah, I might get arrested, but that wouldn't occur to me till it was too late, lol). I am very protective of my girlfriend at games(She plays Chaos, and LARPs, as well as pen-and-paper, and is basicly nerdier then me, plus good looking). I go to her stuff sometimes just to keep the fail-happy nerds off.


LARP'ing is pretty hardcore dude.

As for most of these reasons me and my friends never go to our GW anymore except to buy what we can't get off ebay, and too keep a variety we all collect a main army which we buy models for and such, but we all have a extra 2 - 3 codexs where will proxy just a bunch of old / new models for different armies.

I can't stand to go into my GW anymore cause everytime I go in there, this nerdy kid wearing a trench coat is ALWAYS there, and he just stands in the back and eats candies.

wtf larp/pen and paper?

LARP stands for Live Action Role Play. Where one would run around a field dressed as an elf from lord of the rings or something like that. Not too sure what pen and paper involves though 8Y

LARP stands for Live Action Role Play. Where one would run around a field dressed as an elf from lord of the rings or something like that. Not too sure what pen and paper involves though 8Y

Pen and Paper is RPGs that use (believe it or not) Pen and Paper. :P. I dunno of an example, does D&D count?


Anyway, my gaming club at the Ayr store (before it shut down last september) Consisted of me (14 at the time) up to some people in their 40s. The "tweens" as they have been named, came in on sundays most of the time. So it was all good. My close friends (about 10 of us) are currently between 15(me) to 22.

When the store closed, we rented out a room at the local leisure centre in Ayr. Its £3 admission fee, and we require £31ish to rent the room. However we currently have about £100 in Club Funds :D

The group that goes to the club consists of the "Ayr Store" which is me and my close friends, who, surprisingly, seeing as its such a small evironment, are very good at the games (occasionaly we go up to glasgow for an "Ayr vs. Glasgow type thing, we have yet to lose). Then there are the newbies, who are younger, but theyre not that bad (theres 5 or so of them).

Thats my ranty store story type thing :D

Archy

LARP stands for Live Action Role Play. Where one would run around a field dressed as an elf from lord of the rings or something like that.

;oWhoa, I thought stuff like that never existed! And, is pretty hardcore.

Though having a nerdy girlfriend ensures that you're not the only one I suppose, I'm not saying that you're a nerd or anything. If only I could find someone with the same interests as me! ;Y

-Kai-Itza-

Unfortunatly Koss we had the same idea. and started our own Gaming Club. We have over 200 odd members and make a profit of £350 every time we run it =]

What this meant is that our local GW was not making as much money as it should and eventually it closed down. =[

ow well... one of my friends started an independent stockist and is now booming =] coupled with money from commissions and also the club we should be fine for a very long time =]

i can understand peoples disdain for little kids who get everything but in the end it's not the kids faults there like that. it's the parents.

-Tib

ow well... one of my friends started an independent stockist and is now booming =] coupled with money from commissions and also the club we should be fine for a very long time =]


IMO I find that Indies are way more successful than a GW store, both in Customer Service and variety of stock from other games systems. Conversions anyone? ;)


-Kai-Itza-

I have no problem with little kids playing. It's when they don't even know what an army list is and use some wierd rule that a friend of a friend has told them.

As for the 'wierd painting' remark, I think that it depends on how you said it.

GW paint is non-toxic. I'm not suggesting your pour yourself a glass of Regal Blue to wash down your dinner tonight, but you're not going to drop dead from licking your brush.

It sounds like the guy who was doing it in the store interpreted your comment as you being critical of his technique and took offense.

I love the fact that young kids are involved, and I find it really funny that some people want GW to keep prices high for exclusionary reasons. Keep those poor people out of here! LOL. Yes children can be annoying, but they're the future of the hobby, and I'm sure there are plenty of parents who think that laying out $700 for an army of plastic toy soldiers is a very cheap price to pay considering the return on the investment. For about the same price as an XBox and maybe 10 games, you've just gotten your kid involved in a hobby that requires lots of social interaction and forces them to work on their artistic, organizational and math skills, among other things.