Just a question, because I haven't really seen anything about it.. Two years ago we had the Medusa V campaign, last year was the Nemesis Crown -- is there going to be a 40k campaign this summer? Or is all of that kind of getting lost in the shuffle of the 5th Edition rules?

Yeah, i heard some rumours about some kind of planetary assualt book with accompying models and campaign.

That would be great. i do hope the rumors are true.

That would be great. i do hope the rumors are true.

Nope this summer is all about 5th ed in july and the dark elves in WFB. People bitched to much about medusa V and nemesis crown so much that GW has decided not to do anymore 'world wide campaigns. Which I agree with. While campaigns are fun if none of the background can be changed to much without upsetting the stalemate that exists in both games then what is the point? Altho I think its a little easier to change the fluff for WFB then 40K. :beer:

>.> The campaigns was the main reason i ever got into Warhammer 40k in the first freaking place

You could always just have your local shop run a campaign, or get some friends together and do one. Every summer my friends and I play campaigns with eachother, and in the Fall the local shop runs campaigns as well.
Also- as cool as the summer campaigns are, they are almost all rigged. Because- as previously stated- the Campaigns are advertised as effecting the fluff, but the fluff can't really change. Eye of Terror was excellent, but that's because of how well thought out it was. It was clear that the Chaos armies couldn't win because- true to the fluff- the Imperial forces were fighting them at every turn and the forces of Chaos were just too undermanned to launch a big enough attack. And they weren't "Allied" with the other 'evil' races, rather- the evil races were just taking advantage of the situation.

For SoC, the problem was that the forces of Chaos and Evil all allied and actually managed to start winning (legally) at every turn. The campaign organizers suddenly realized that rather than the Chaos armies getting forced back to their own realm, they were actually going to legitamately capture all the other kingdoms and therefore end WHFB as we know it. So they simply took the helm and wrote their own outcome. So even when Chaos won the last battle, there's some miraculous effect that stole their victory and gave it to the 'inferior' players. That's why they got so mad. Same goes for Nemesis and Medusa.

If they want to keep running WWCs, they need to plan them much better, so that the game ends in a stalemate or simply effects the game in a non-fluff-changing way. A tyranid invasion would make a good campaign, because the Nids won't be utterly eradicated, and the other armies will keep infighting like they did in EoT. But GW doesn't want to put in that kind of effort anymore.

Well I like the idea of being part of an event that is bigger than a local run thing. Something Larger than myself. I understand the WHFB thing, Can't have chaos take over the empire. As for 40k The galaxy is soo huge that no army could ever truly take down the Imperium with the exception of nids, and MAYBE necrons.

I agree... Half of the reason I got into 40k were campaigns like the Dark Crusade and Medusa V -- a chance to feel like my army is doing its small part in the giant world of 40k. I mean, Warmachine seems to have campaigns that affect its fluff but don't break the game, so why couldn't WHFB? And 40k has a pretty much infinite number of small planets and systems that can be conquered and razed with very little consequence on the overall fluff.

For SoC, the problem was that the forces of Chaos and Evil all allied and actually managed to start winning (legally) at every turn. The campaign organizers suddenly realized that rather than the Chaos armies getting forced back to their own realm, they were actually going to legitamately capture all the other kingdoms and therefore end WHFB as we know it. So they simply took the helm and wrote their own outcome. So even when Chaos won the last battle, there's some miraculous effect that stole their victory and gave it to the 'inferior' players. That's why they got so mad. Same goes for Nemesis and Medusa.



Umm... You do realize that SoC the good guys were winning so completely decisively that the writers had to actually write up ways to have Chaos win. Like how Archaon went up and executed his general at Brass Keep for being so bad at capturing the place and then completely passing the keep up. Or how they had to set off a plague to capture a keep.

Medusa and Nemesis were actually army driven. They had no impact on the larger fluff so the people who won actually won.

Seeing as though it's like... uhm... no longer summer, i guess we can rule out having a summer campaign?! :thunder:

Umm, like, I'm sorry for living in the SOUTHERN hemisphere, in Australia, where we have a large following of the hobby. It's sure as s**t summer down under!!!! It's already 30 degrees celsius (97 degrees fahnreinheight {i don't care if I spell it wrong... damn Pommie's and Yanks}).

However, I would personally love to see a summer campaign. I love the idea that my one game or mini campaign in my local store/club can change the outcome of the world-wide confilct.

It's cool. GW just needs to stop writing Space Marine codices and do something productive.

im a SM player and i agree with Jakeman on this one. i would rather have a new guard, or campaign then another new SM codex

well maybe a new SM codex with wargear.

Umm, like, I'm sorry for living in the SOUTHERN hemisphere, in Australia, where we have a large following of the hobby. It's sure as s**t summer down under!!!! It's already 30 degrees celsius (97 degrees fahnreinheight {i don't care if I spell it wrong... damn Pommie's and Yanks}).

However, I would personally love to see a summer campaign. I love the idea that my one game or mini campaign in my local store/club can change the outcome of the world-wide confilct.

It's cool. GW just needs to stop writing Space Marine codices and do something productive.

Oi! GW is a northern hemisphere company, you lot are just hanging by, like a 5th wheel! :P

I wish it was summer here, rain and cold weather sucks.

Well I don't know if their will be a campaign, but aside from all the recent hubub about another wave of 40k models, in Us WD 344 pg.54 and I quote : "...watch out for the 40K answer to Mighty Empires in future issues..." Then, in Us WD 348 pg.82(caption) and I quote: "The apocalypse expansion was released back in October 2007. In a couple of months it will get a second hit, filled with even mote apocalyptic goodness." So even if their is no worldwide campaign, I'm sure our best friends *cough*enemies* cough* at GW are brewing up something for us to do inside our airconditioned homes (in the Northern Hemisphere) and our toastily heated huts (in the Southern Hemishpere) in a few months time. Any comments?

Hey,

GW are brewing up something for us to do inside our airconditioned homes

If it had turned out to be profitable, GW would never have stopped summer campaigns - and they did.

So, what's that tell us? Well, what do we know?

Bean-counters are a legendarily humorless lot, and likely saw little return for the promotional investment.
Luring players into places filled with merch and sales pitches sounds like a good idea, but they've got "the numbers".

That's how I'm connecting the dots, anyway.

Any comments?

Again, what do we know? Well, let's look at recent trends in "The Hobby":

GW is no longer in the "fun" business, and won't "brew" anything that doesn't result in instant profits -
Recent Codices and Army Books minimize potential for creativity, and blatantly push boxes/ blisters as-is.
So afaict, if we want to "advance the timeline", we'll have to do all the heavy lifting ourselves from now on.

If you game exclusively in GW Bunkers, or whatever they're called, you'll find little campaign help there.
Remember that this is the same company that is sellling Apocalypse 1&2 - in stores with a few 4x4 or 4x6ft tables.
(Note that this is from a US perspective, but that operational mandates, afaik, must all come from GWHQ in the UK.)

In the US, Dave Taylor almost single-handedly pulled-off nigh-miraculous events for GWNA to promote The Hobby.
Dave is now no longer in GW's employ so, evidently, hobby events in their most profitable region are a low priority.
So, global events - being exponentially more costly - would seem to be a thing of the past for "GW gamers" as well.

If you need any further proof of GW's current customer indifference, try navigating their new global website.
The Firefox Mac experience borders on the painful . . .


Pla - misses the fun - ya