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infadork
May 11th, 2008, 17:54
I just recently played this army list and it did fairly well, with a unit of KotR keeping 2 units in combat for 2 turns, it was a friendly team game (my partner was playing Lizardmen).

General
Paladin
Lance
Shield
Royal Pegasus
Enchanted Shield
Gauntlet of the Duel
Virtue of Confidence
Total: 161

BSB
Paladin
Barded Warhorse
Banner of Chalons
Total: 84

Hero
Paladin
Questing Vow
Great Weapon
Barded Warhorse
Biting Blade
Virtue of the Ideal
Total: 126

Core Units

Knights of the Realm (7) Hero and BSB in this unit
Musician
Total: 176

Peasant Bowmen (20)
Skirmish
Total: 140

Men at Arms (20)
Standard Bearer
Total: 110

Special Units

Pegasus Knights (5) General in this unit
Total: 275

Grail Religuae
6 additional Battle Pilgrims
Total: 172

Rare Units

Grail Knights (6)
Standard Bearer
Total: 248

Total: 1497

magila
May 12th, 2008, 11:28
It looks good but you lack magic defense. You could get chewed apart by those nasty spells that ignore armour saves. I.E. Nurgle

Phoenix
May 12th, 2008, 11:57
Banner choice on the BSB is kinda... unnecessary i think, maybe go for a magic weapon or something instead.

The third Paladin has a GW and the BBlade, but both cannot be used or Stacked, so drop one.

20 Skirming bows is quite a large unit... but that does mean a lot of shots, ven if they may prove quite difficult to position. Give them Music, and possibly a banner. Oh, and Braziers.

Music for the M@A

The Pegasi cannot be joined by the General unfortunately, Characters cannot join flying units.

Give Grails Music, lose Standard.

infadork
May 12th, 2008, 18:05
Banner choice on the BSB is kinda... unnecessary i think, maybe go for a magic weapon or something instead.
So would a Birth Sword of Carcassonne be a better choice?

The third Paladin has a GW and the BBlade, but both cannot be used or Stacked, so drop one.
I thought they could because Biting Blade doesn't say it can't be used on a Great Weapon, but if that's the case then yea I'll just drop the magic item from him.

20 Skirming bows is quite a large unit... but that does mean a lot of shots, ven if they may prove quite difficult to position. Give them Music, and possibly a banner. Oh, and Braziers.
I like 20 bowmen skirmishing, however fielding is quite annoying. I may decide to keep them because they have proved useful on many occasions (killing a lvl 2 High Mage ftw!).

Music for the M@A
Should my M@A have FC then, or is that really pointless?

The Pegasi cannot be joined by the General unfortunately, Characters cannot join flying units.
Aww I thought they could /pout. By any means I was thinking of dropping 2 Pegasus Knights and replace with another unit of 16 bowmen with stakes and braziers; does that sound better? I mean as it is 5 Pegasus Knights is a lot of points for a 1500 point army imo.

Give Grails Music, lose Standard.
Is this due to Grail Knights attacking flank and therefore not caring about standard?

I appreciate your help Phoenix ;o

Will954
May 12th, 2008, 18:20
I think a FC with M@A is a good way to go, unless you are really hard up for points.

Also just a general observation, I think you are spending an aweful lot on your heroes for a 1500 point battle. I can understand if you lack models so you have to make it up with gear, but remember Bretonnians are like the Space Marines of FWB (their troops are really really good) so the more line troops you can get out there the better. I have a 1500 pt list that has no magic gear on my 2 Paladins and only a DS and Chalice on my Damsel. But I have 40+ knights out there .... might be over kill, but who knows :D

Phoenix
May 12th, 2008, 18:48
Hmm.. new colour needed :)

Banner choice on the BSB is kinda... unnecessary i think, maybe go for a magic weapon or something instead.
So would a Birth Sword of Carcassonne be a better choice?
BSoC is a good weapon yes. Though maybe give that to the General, and have the BSB carry the Sword of Might., similar weapons really, bith good and useful.
Dont forget the Lance also, as he can use the Lance on the Charge if you wish, and then later switch to the BS if you like (Brets are the only ones i know of who can do this, switching weapons mid combat)

The third Paladin has a GW and the BBlade, but both cannot be used or Stacked, so drop one.
I thought they could because Biting Blade doesn't say it can't be used on a Great Weapon, but if that's the case then yea I'll just drop the magic item from him.
I think youre a little confused here. No waepons can be stanced. Dwarven runes are slightly different in that the runes do add to the mundane Weapon, but normal Magic Weapons dont stach. You may have a GW and a Magic Weapon, but then you must ALWAYS use the Magic Weapon so long as its possible too.
Say... you take 2 Hand Weapons, and a Great Weapon, you must always choose one OR the other. i.e +1A OR +2S. Its the same if you take a Magical Weapon, only you MUST use the magic weapon (unless, as above, you have a Mundane Bret Lance)

20 Skirming bows is quite a large unit... but that does mean a lot of shots, ven if they may prove quite difficult to position. Give them Music, and possibly a banner. Oh, and Braziers.
I like 20 bowmen skirmishing, however fielding is quite annoying. I may decide to keep them because they have proved useful on many occasions (killing a lvl 2 High Mage ftw!).
Cool

Music for the M@A
Should my M@A have FC then, or is that really pointless?
Not completely pointless, if you have the points for the Champ then why not.

The Pegasi cannot be joined by the General unfortunately, Characters cannot join flying units.
Aww I thought they could /pout. By any means I was thinking of dropping 2 Pegasus Knights and replace with another unit of 16 bowmen with stakes and braziers; does that sound better? I mean as it is 5 Pegasus Knights is a lot of points for a 1500 point army imo.
5 is quite Large yes... lose 1, possibly 2. I wouldnt put the ponts into more Bowmen tough, too static. Go for 5-6 Mounted Yeomen, with Music.

Give Grails Music, lose Standard.
Is this due to Grail Knights attacking flank and therefore not caring about standard?
Well, its just incase they lose it to the enemy, then it gives away 100VicPts. Grails win on hitting power, not static resolution. Just saves a bit off an already expensive unit aswell.

I appreciate your help Phoenix ;o
No Prob :)

infadork
May 12th, 2008, 20:59
Hmm.. new colour needed :)
I think a new color is needed as well :)

Banner choice on the BSB is kinda... unnecessary i think, maybe go for a magic weapon or something instead.
So would a Birth Sword of Carcassonne be a better choice?
BSoC is a good weapon yes. Though maybe give that to the General, and have the BSB carry the Sword of Might., similar weapons really, bith good and useful.
Dont forget the Lance also, as he can use the Lance on the Charge if you wish, and then later switch to the BS if you like (Brets are the only ones i know of who can do this, switching weapons mid combat)
Hmmm I never new the Brets could do this, this makes me one happy Bret player! But I think you may be right about giving the BSoC to the general, but I made the general to be a character killer, hence the gauntlets and the virtue, but I guess I could change around his build....

The third Paladin has a GW and the BBlade, but both cannot be used or Stacked, so drop one.
I thought they could because Biting Blade doesn't say it can't be used on a Great Weapon, but if that's the case then yea I'll just drop the magic item from him.
I think youre a little confused here. No waepons can be stanced. Dwarven runes are slightly different in that the runes do add to the mundane Weapon, but normal Magic Weapons dont stach. You may have a GW and a Magic Weapon, but then you must ALWAYS use the Magic Weapon so long as its possible too.
Say... you take 2 Hand Weapons, and a Great Weapon, you must always choose one OR the other. i.e +1A OR +2S. Its the same if you take a Magical Weapon, only you MUST use the magic weapon (unless, as above, you have a Mundane Bret Lance)
Ahhh see I thought that since he could wield a great weapon then that could be further enchanted... Oh well I guess I'll just give him the Biting Blade and have some fun with it that way :) I will say I am confused as to why Games Workshop made a Bret Hero with a 2-Handed Axe when there are no specific magical axes /sigh

20 Skirming bows is quite a large unit... but that does mean a lot of shots, ven if they may prove quite difficult to position. Give them Music, and possibly a banner. Oh, and Braziers.
I like 20 bowmen skirmishing, however fielding is quite annoying. I may decide to keep them because they have proved useful on many occasions (killing a lvl 2 High Mage ftw!).
Cool
Ok happy you like it :)

Music for the M@A
Should my M@A have FC then, or is that really pointless?
Not completely pointless, if you have the points for the Champ then why not.
Ok, I was just curious, but it is unfortunate cause my M@A always seem to die like woah.... Although I guess it's good when they focus their magics on them instead of my knights :)

The Pegasi cannot be joined by the General unfortunately, Characters cannot join flying units.
Aww I thought they could /pout. By any means I was thinking of dropping 2 Pegasus Knights and replace with another unit of 16 bowmen with stakes and braziers; does that sound better? I mean as it is 5 Pegasus Knights is a lot of points for a 1500 point army imo.
5 is quite Large yes... lose 1, possibly 2. I wouldnt put the ponts into more Bowmen tough, too static. Go for 5-6 Mounted Yeomen, with Music.
Instead of the Mounted Yeoman, would a Damsel with a couple of Dispell Scrolls work better? If so where could I stick her, unless I stick her with the Bowmen, which I don't even know if I could.

Give Grails Music, lose Standard.
Is this due to Grail Knights attacking flank and therefore not caring about standard?
Well, its just incase they lose it to the enemy, then it gives away 100VicPts. Grails win on hitting power, not static resolution. Just saves a bit off an already expensive unit aswell.
I see you're understanding with that, but fortunately we generally don't play with Victory Points, we just play annihilation, which is loads of fun. So I think I may keep the Battle Standard and have a musician on the side in case we do decide to play Victory Points.

I appreciate your help Phoenix ;o
No Prob :)
Once again thanks for the help 8X

Phoenix
May 12th, 2008, 21:44
Ok, enough with the Colours... :P

No Victory Points!? Awesome! max out on banners then.

A Damsel could be useful... look into one. and have her in a Knight Units of 7, with a Character there too, to grant the Mag Res.

Oh, and that Pallie with the 2 handed axe, it represents a Questing Knight, with a Great Weapon. And there is a magic one of these, though i forget its name...

infadork
May 15th, 2008, 06:14
Ok so I redid my army list and this is what I came up with. Please tell me how it is and what should be done to change it :D

Heroes:

General
Paladin
Royal Pegasus
Lance
Virtue of Confidence
Gauntlet of the Duel
Enchanted Shield
Total: 159

BSB
Paladin
Barded Bret Horse
Birth-Sword of Carcassonne
Total: 109

Caster
Damsel of the Lady
Barded Bret Horse
2X Dispell Scroll
Total: 134

Core Units:

Knights of the Realm (7) Damsel and BSB in this unit
Musician
Total: 176

Peasant Bowmen (16)
Braziers
Total: 101

Men @ Arms (20)
Standard Bearer
Musician
Total: 115

Special Units:

Pegasus Knights (3)
Total: 165

Grail Reliquae with Battle Pilgrims
6 additional Battle Pilgrims
Total: 172

Mounted Yeoman (6)
Shields
Battle Standard
Musician
Total: 117
Rare Units:

Grail Knights (6)
Battle Standard
Total: 248
Total Cost: 1496


Oh, and that Pallie with the 2 handed axe, it represents a Questing Knight, with a Great Weapon. And there is a magic one of these, though i forget its name...
I know it's a Questing Knight model, but looking through the book there's only one Questing Knight weapon: SWORD of the Quest lol.

Phoenix
May 15th, 2008, 08:27
I know it's a Questing Knight model, but looking through the book there's only one Questing Knight weapon: SWORD of the Quest lol.


Ahh, fair enough lol.

As for the list, looks good :) Only think i could suggest is to maybe lose a Scroll for the Chalice.

infadork
May 15th, 2008, 14:25
You mean Chalice of Mafleur? hmmm I think you may be right cause having 4 dispell dice is never a bad thing :D

Phoenix
May 15th, 2008, 18:57
And some Magic Resistance on top :)