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[justiceisrelative]

Here is the list iam bringin to the ard boyz. be honest and critical. I am looking for good discourse. It is an IG army with inquistoral allies. In () is their roll.


HQCommand platoon
Supreme commander fantleory (CREED)
Company standard, vox caster, master of ordanace, officer of fleet, 2 vets.
chimera with pintle stubber ( issues four orders a turn, drops a st 9 template denies reserves for my oppent, provides a rerol all from the saftey of their mobile command bunker)

Cannoness Lizzy
Cloak of ST. ASpira, Book of St. Luc, Jump Pack, Blessed WEapon, bolt pistol frag grenades,Mantle of ophelia. ( supports the plattoon and counter attacks)


Troops

33rd Rifles of Far ( infantry platoon) (firebase)

Platoon command
pwrfist, 4 flamers

1st squad
Sgt, plasma gun, missle launcher team, 6 grunts

2nd and 3rd squads
sgt plasma gun autocannon team 6 grunts

heavy weapon squad
3 las cannon teams

45th Dragoons ( Vets) (mobile anti-armour & objective takers)
sgt, 3 melta guns, 6 vets
chimera extra armour, pintle stubber

BSS Hellfire ( all round mobile objective takers )
Vet sup with evisarator & book of st luc, melta, heavy flamer, 7 sisters
rhino extra armour smoke launchers

BSS Brimstone (all round mobile objective takers )
Vet sup with melta bomb & book of st luc, melta, heavy flamer, 7 sisters
rhino extra armour smoke launchers

Elite

Guardsman marbo (the new death cult assain)

Ordo-Malleus Inquistor (jack of all mess with opp)
Inq Eastwood Bolter, Psy hood, Tarrot cards
hierphant, 2 mystics, 3 servitors with h. bolters

Fast Attack
Vet sup with evisarator & book of st luc, twin hand flamers, twin inferno pistols, 5 seraphim

Heavy Support

Lion of Fah ( standard russ) ( FIRE SUPPORT)
las cannon, sponson heavy bolters

Dragon of Far ( demolisher) ( the threat)
plasma sponsons, las cannon dozer blade

Exorcist (manticore) ( fire support)

[A.T.]

You may want to drop one of those heavy bolters to get your inq's Ld up to 10 if you plan on using his psychic hood effectively

[WhiteRussian]

You may want to drop one of those heavy bolters to get your inq's Ld up to 10 if you plan on using his psychic hood effectively

you cannot increase elite inquisitor's LD to 10 as far as I know. maybe though seraphim around him, but I dont recall their visage rule to cite it.

[A.T.]

you cannot increase elite inquisitor's LD to 10 as far as I know.I'll have to check my book when I get home, I thought they stacked up to a cap of 10.

The seraphim's Ld boost is limited to units of sisters IIRC.

[WhiteRussian]

I'll have to check my book when I get home, I thought they stacked up to a cap of 10.

The seraphim's Ld boost is limited to units of sisters IIRC.

Hierophants read:
If an inquisitor has one or more hierophants in his retinue, he gains +1 Ld to a maximum of 10" (DH codex p. 14)
Having more than 1 will not increase it for more than +1.

Seraphims' special rule only applies to Adepta Sororitas, you are right.

[justiceisrelative]

i thought with command rules for the chimera the standard would be in play

I will re model my russ for trip hevay bolter


I know the 2 hq s are going to kill me in the 2nd scenerio but i need them both to make my army work.

the seraphim buble works on any friendly unit but thast aside the book of st luc makes all units in 6" stubborn

[jy2]

Hierophants read:
If an inquisitor has one or more hierophants in his retinue, he gains +1 Ld to a maximum of 10" (DH codex p. 14)
Having more than 1 will not increase it for more than +1.

Seraphims' special rule only applies to Adepta Sororitas, you are right.

The intent is for it to be stackable. Otherwise, there is no need for the book to state the maximum of 10 limit as it would be impossible to get LD 10 if they weren't cumulative. But it's another one of those poorly written rules that could be rule-lawyered both ways.

[WhiteRussian]

The intent is for it to be stackable. Otherwise, there is no need for the book to state the maximum of 10 limit as it would be impossible to get LD 10 if they weren't cumulative. But it's another one of those poorly written rules that could be rule-lawyered both ways.

I disagree, the reason for the cap is to make sure you dont have an Inquisitor Lord with ld 11. (codex would override the rulebook in this case)

It is worded just like any other henchman who increases a stat. If it was written "for every heirophant" than it would be a totally different idea.

Seraphim:
"Any Adepta Sororitas unit with a model within 6" of at least one model in the Seraphim unit adds +1 to their Leadership..." so seraphim only work for +1 LD on 6" for Adepta Sororitas (WH Codex, p.35)

Book of St. Lucious:
"Any friendly unit with a model within 6" may use the bearer's unmodified Leadership..." (WH Codex, p.20)

So any friendly unit may use their LD. Witch brings a very interesting question... a unit of seraphim has models in its unit 6" within itself... do they get a +1 LD?

[A.T.]

So any friendly unit may use their LD. Witch brings a very interesting question... a unit of seraphim has models in its unit 6" within itself... do they get a +1 LD?I see what you mean, the angelic visage has basically the same wording as the book (other than 'any friendly' vs 'any adepta sororitas')

Since the book works for the unit carrying it - Seraphim logically benefit from their own aura too (except when making use of a book, which uses their unmodified Ld)

[justiceisrelative]

Here is the list iam bringin to the ard boyz. be honest and critical. I am looking for good discourse. It is an IG army with inquistoral allies. In () is their roll. i have read severeal message boards and have updated my list


HQCommand platoon
Supreme commander fantleory (CREED)
Company standard, vox caster, master of ordanace, officer of fleet, 2 vets.
chimera with pintle stubber ( issues four orders a turn, drops a st 9 template denies reserves for my oppent, provides a rerol all from the saftey of their mobile command bunker)

Cannoness Lizzy
Cloak of ST. ASpira, Book of St. Luc, Jump Pack, Blessed WEapon, bolt pistol frag grenades,Mantle of ophelia. ( supports the plattoon and counter attacks)


Troops

33rd Rifles of Far ( infantry platoon) (firebase)

Platoon command
4 flamers

1st squad
Sgt, plasma gun, missle launcher team, voxcaster,5 grunts

2nd and 3rd squads
sgt plasma gun autocannon team voxcaster 5 grunts

heavy weapon squad
3 las cannon teams

45th Dragoons ( Vets) (mobile anti-armour & objective takers)
Bastonne, 3 melta guns, 6 vets
chimera extra armour, pintle stubber

BSS Hellfire ( all round mobile objective takers )
Vet sup with evisarator & book of st luc, melta, heavy flamer, 7 sisters
rhino extra armour smoke launchers

BSS Brimstone (all round mobile objective takers )
Vet sup with book of st luc, melta, heavy flamer, 7 sisters
rhino extra armour smoke launchers

Elite

Guardsman marbo (the new death cult assain)

Ordo-Malleus Inquistor (jack of all mess with opp)
Inq Eastwood Bolter, Psy hood,
hierphant, 2 mystics, 3 servitors with h. bolters

Fast Attack
Vet sup with evisarator & book of st luc, twin hand flamers, twin inferno pistols, 5 seraphim

Heavy Support

Lion of Fah ( standard russ) ( FIRE SUPPORT)
heavy bolter, sponson heavy bolters

Dragon of Far ( demolisher) ( the threat)
plasma sponsons, las cannon dozer blade

Exorcist (manticore) ( fire support)


so plan is to form a block of massed fire power with the platoon russ and manticore in the center of the board while my seraphim, the bss squads backed up by the vets & demolisher seize ground and envelop those rushing the fire base. marbo will come in where he is needed hopefullt late to contest objectives or tag team with the seraphim.

am i getting better

[WhiteRussian]

Here is the list iam bringin to the ard boyz. be honest and critical. I am looking for good discourse. It is an IG army with inquistoral allies. In () is their roll. i have read severeal message boards and have updated my list


HQCommand platoon
Supreme commander fantleory (CREED)
Company standard, vox caster, master of ordanace, officer of fleet, 2 vets.
chimera with pintle stubber ( issues four orders a turn, drops a st 9 template denies reserves for my oppent, provides a rerol all from the saftey of their mobile command bunker)

Cannoness Lizzy
Cloak of ST. ASpira, Book of St. Luc, Jump Pack, Blessed WEapon, bolt pistol frag grenades,Mantle of ophelia. ( supports the plattoon and counter attacks)


Troops

33rd Rifles of Far ( infantry platoon) (firebase)

Platoon command
4 flamers

1st squad
Sgt, plasma gun, missle launcher team, voxcaster,5 grunts

2nd and 3rd squads
sgt plasma gun autocannon team voxcaster 5 grunts

heavy weapon squad
3 las cannon teams

45th Dragoons ( Vets) (mobile anti-armour & objective takers)
Bastonne, 3 melta guns, 6 vets
chimera extra armour, pintle stubber

BSS Hellfire ( all round mobile objective takers )
Vet sup with evisarator & book of st luc, melta, heavy flamer, 7 sisters
rhino extra armour smoke launchers

BSS Brimstone (all round mobile objective takers )
Vet sup with book of st luc, melta, heavy flamer, 7 sisters
rhino extra armour smoke launchers

Elite

Guardsman marbo (the new death cult assain)

Ordo-Malleus Inquistor (jack of all mess with opp)
Inq Eastwood Bolter, Psy hood,
hierphant, 2 mystics, 3 servitors with h. bolters

Fast Attack
Vet sup with evisarator & book of st luc, twin hand flamers, twin inferno pistols, 5 seraphim

Heavy Support

Lion of Fah ( standard russ) ( FIRE SUPPORT)
heavy bolter, sponson heavy bolters

Dragon of Far ( demolisher) ( the threat)
plasma sponsons, las cannon dozer blade

Exorcist (manticore) ( fire support)


so plan is to form a block of massed fire power with the platoon russ and manticore in the center of the board while my seraphim, the bss squads backed up by the vets & demolisher seize ground and envelop those rushing the fire base. marbo will come in where he is needed hopefullt late to contest objectives or tag team with the seraphim.

am i getting better

i really like this army, the only thing i would change maybe is get Emperor's Tarot to the DH inquisitor. It is 15 points, but helped me in some games to get a sure first turn.

[justiceisrelative]

isn't there circumstances when i want the 2 nd turn. while anyway i could drop i few things and add it.


I have droped the bolt pistol from the cannoness and the dozer from the demo and added emperor's tarrot.

[WhiteRussian]

isn't there circumstances when i want the 2 nd turn. while anyway i could drop i few things and add it.


I have droped the bolt pistol from the cannoness and the dozer from the demo and added emperor's tarrot.

id imagine the circumstance when you want second turn is when your opponent moves everythign to the reserve (witch is very risky anyways), but in this situation you are most likely given the first turn by the opponent because it is a counter measure against your army.

[justiceisrelative]

I was trying to get every branch of the imperium into this army. I could not fit the tech priest but i think every other branch is there.

[WhiteRussian]

I was trying to get every branch of the imperium into this army. I could not fit the tech priest but i think every other branch is there.

what about adeptus arbites, adeptus astartes and ordo xenos?

I guess you could add them all but it wont be a hard tournament list.

[justiceisrelative]

what about adeptus arbites, adeptus astartes and ordo xenos?

I guess you could add them all but it wont be a hard tournament list.


not be a fluff a nutter but all branches of the inqustion, arbites, storm troopers and commisar start from the schola programa I believe. So we have the imperial navy, the imperial guard, the eccclesasstary, the schola programa, the adeptus terra, adetus mechinicus, the 3 inquistorial orders as branches in the endless imprium bueracy. I have managed to represent most of them in a list that will be competive (that's the hope. ). Its a moral victory but i am proud to have a theme in the most blood thrisy tourney of them all.

[WhiteRussian]

not be a fluff a nutter but all branches of the inqustion, arbites, storm troopers and commisar start from the schola programa I believe. So we have the imperial navy, the imperial guard, the eccclesasstary, the schola programa, the adeptus terra, adetus mechinicus, the 3 inquistorial orders as branches in the endless imprium bueracy. I have managed to represent most of them in a list that will be competive (that's the hope. ). Its a moral victory but i am proud to have a theme in the most blood thrisy tourney of them all.

actually it is interesting to learn for me, i dont read fluff much, but when i find out something i feel the day was not wasted =) (speaks sad for my life eh?)