List Advice

[Nevyen]

Hey there new to the forums and the game in general.

Picked Deamonhunters for the fluff and the things I would like to do modeling wise and theme wise

anyway after some theory crafting this is the list im working towards to begin with,


HQ

Grand Master
Nemisis Force Weapon
Hammerhand
Purity Seals
Icon of the just
Storm Shield

Retinue
5 terminators
Incinerator

Troops

Grey Knights
Justicar
8x Knights
Psycannon
Melta Bombs
Krak Grenades
Rhino
Blessed
Extra Amrour
Pintle Mounted Storm Bolter

Storm Troopers
10 Troopers
Sergent
Targeter
Grenade Launcher
MeltaGun
Rhino
Pintle Mounted storm bolter
Blessed
Extra Armour


Heavy Support

Land Raider Crusader
Blessed
Sacred Hull
Psycannon Bolts
Extra Armour
Smoke Launchers

Dreadnought
Twin Linked Lascannon
Missile Launcher
Bleassed
Extra Armour
Smoke Launchers

1499 pts




Look forward to your feedback

cheers

[number6]

Welcome aboard!

The problem I see with your army is that it's a "Greatest Hits of the DH Codex" and not a coherent army. You don't have enough shooting or close combat power. You don't have enough anti-vehicle firepower nor enough anti-infantry firepower. You have spent lots of points on shiny bits and unfocused builds rather than using only what is essential and effective.

The DH codex has lots of bright shiny stuff that looks attractive but is really unnecessary. DH units are very powerful as-is. You don't need or want frills to spice them up. They're perfectly fine the way they are. You want to spend your points getting more of that rather than diluting it.

For example, you can make a reasonably effective 1500 pt force using just the units you are currently employing. But they need to be reorganized a bit. Try the following instead.

HQ
[245 pts] BC, 4 GKT retinue

Troops
[201 pts] 5 GKs, 2x psycannon, Justicar w/targeter
[286 pts] 10 GKs, incinerator, Justicar w/frags
[128 pts] 5 ISTs, 2x melta; Rhino, extra armour, smoke
[123 pts] 5 ISTs, 2x melta; Rhino, smoke

Heavy
[258 pts] LRC, smoke
[258 pts] LRC, smoke

Total: 1499 pts

This gives you a couple of melta suicide squads to shield your LRCs on their flanks from similar units, and also the ability to rush ahead and de-mech your opponent. You have a GK psycannon "mini-purgation" unit to hold your home objective and shoot downfield. And your LRCs are the most amazing dakka tanks in the game not to mention carrying deadly deadly cargo that you can unload as you need.

Dreadnoughts, sadly, have no purpose in DH armies these days. They were fine for 4th edition 40K, and can work in Marine armies, but don't do us DH players any favors.

[Rabbit]

First, greetings from LO. Feel free to contact either myself or any other mod if you have any questions.

Second, this thread belongs in the army list section.

*thread moved*

[Nevyen]

Thanks for the advice!

Ill be keeping the dread for now (budget constriants) and will upgrade to a 2nd LRC later down the track but i see your point about your reconmendation.

Tough thing is after not playing 40k for neigh on 10 years I have no real feel for the game nor its mechanics, but im really enjoying the painting.

Ill look over my collection and adjust the list to incorporate your suggestions cheers!

[FalconFive]

welcome back!

5th ed has become a very mechanized game. need mobility.
number6 hit it dead on. keep em basic. one thing i noticed in ur list is that u gave ur pagk's a rhino. they cannot be assigned any transport. :freaked-out:
gotta load em into a lr. rhinos and chimeras can only be given to stormies and inq's.
dreads just do not survive long enough to be effective any more.

[Nevyen]

Yeah getting that impresson well for the time being ill try and make it work and the modeling options for the Dred still inspire me.

Looking at using the commisars from the death korp of krieg as vetran sergents for the storm troopers, leading squads of karskin sporting inquisition markings using the forge world brass stuff.

Plan to post up pic's when im closer to finishing.

[FalconFive]

cool cant wait to see the pics. i also did the same and bought a couple boxes of kasirkins. i tend to leave the sarg personally. always seems to work out that way.

i have two dreads also.. wish i could use them :[ i used teh sm venerable dread for one and it looks pretty sick if i do say so myself. just needs some kind of =][= markings tho

[Nevyen]

Going for a different appraoch now with list

GK allied with SM

HQ

Captain
Terminator Armour [120]


Troops

Tactical Squad (10 SM)
Teleport Homer
Power Weapon
Flamer
Multimetla
Rhino [235]


Tactical Squad (6SM)
Teleport Homer
Power Weapon
Razorback
Dozer Blade
Twin Linked Lascannon [216]


Fast Attack

Grey Knights (7PAGK)
Incinerator [190]

Vanguard Veterans (5SM)
Relic Blade
4x Power Weapons
Razorback
Twin Linked Lascannon [275]

Elite

Grey Knight Terminators (4GKT) [199]

Heavy Support

Land Raider Redeemer [250]
Multimelta

Total 1500 even

So the approach will be the 3 troop carriers plus the GKT and Captain in the Redeemer Form up on the field with the PAGK in reserve to teleport in (taking the PAGK as a fast attack option from the codex allows them to outside of normal scenario rules)

Its a hard hitting in your face army, but of course i havn't played with it yet so not sure if its a good list.

Id really like to get the 1st 1500 sorted as a psudo modeling and shopping list

follow-up to take it to 1750 will be 2x dreads and increaseing the GKT squad size by 1

Please let me know your thoughts

Cheers Nev