1000 Imps First Try. Advice?

[Virusoffline]

CCS + HWT: Hold My Sides objectives/ Bunkerdown and shoot objective thiefs or Heavy Infantry and Light Tanks.
2 Manticors: Sit and hide behind cover and shoot (over) at THE BIG THRETS.
20 Vets/ 2 Chimeras: Take enamy objectives.
Leman Russ: Act important, draw fire and blow stuff up.


Commpany Comand Squad: Flamer, Heavy Weapon Team w/ Auto Cannon, Medi-Pack
95

3 Heavy Weapon Teams: 3 Auto Cannons
75

10 Veterans w/ Chimera: 3 Grenade Launchers.
140

10 Veterans w/ Chimera: 3 Grenade Launchers.
140

Manticor Rocket Launcher.
160

Manticor Rocket Launcher.
160

Leman Russ Executinor (Executinor Plasma Cannon), Side Sponson Plasma Cannons.
230

[Hockeyman506]

Hey there and welcome to the guard, let's take a look-see shall we?




Commpany Comand Squad: Flamer, Heavy Weapon Team w/ Auto Cannon, Medi-Pack
95

Mmmmm, flamer doesn't really compliment the HWT. Medi-pack is expensive as well, if the unit is stationary, camo-cloaks are much, much better.

Only issue I have here is that why are these guys stationary? You don't have any platoons to boss around, give this guys some mobile special weapon, make use of that BS4, and stuff them in a chimera. Melta would be nice as you lack anything to handle AV14 (save the manticores).


3 Heavy Weapon Teams: 3 Auto Cannons
75

Illegal, you need a platoon to take a heavy weapon squad.


10 Veterans w/ Chimera: 3 Grenade Launchers.
140

10 Veterans w/ Chimera: 3 Grenade Launchers.
140

Ehhh, give them something better than grenade launchers, melta or plasma work very well.

I suggest taking another vet squad or a small, cheap platoon to give you more scoring units.


Manticor Rocket Launcher.
160

Manticor Rocket Launcher.
160

Dunno about taking two of these at 1000 points, a lot of armies will make these priority targets and run after them lickety-split as you infantry aren't a very big thread.


Leman Russ Executinor (Executinor Plasma Cannon), Side Sponson Plasma Cannons.
230


Nasty, but I don't think you need two manticores and an executioner at 1000 points. Seems a bit overkill.

I really think you need more troops, ones with better weapons as well. The Manticores are at risk of dying quickly because your opponents will be actively hunting them right off the bat.

It's an interesting list and could be a lot of fun. I'd suggest dropping a manticore and filling out your troops as well as giving the existing veterans and CCS better weapons.

[The Prince of Excess]

The Manticores are good, they actually scale down in usefulness the higher the points go. In 1000 there's a lot less to bust them, especially firing indirectly.

Drop the Russ, way to expensive and you need Troops. Two T3, 5+ Troop choices in Chimeras is a no no for winning. Grab a Platoon, put the PCS in a Chimera and run the squads with Autocannons. Much better use of points and gives some armor busting.

Mount your CCS, 4 special weapons or 3 and a banner and use them aggressive or as a stay back unit to put out fires in your lines. Medi-packs aren't as good as they seem, S6 nullifies it.

The HWS is illegal as pointed out.

Grenade Launchers are fine if you play defensively, Flamers and Meltas are a more aggressive choice. Your army has a hang back feel, so Grenades seem good.

Hope that helps.

[Virusoffline]

Is this Better then?

Commpany Comand Squad: Heavy Weapon Team w/ Auto Cannon, Camo Cloaks
65

5 Plotoon Comand Squad: 3 Plasma Guns
85

10 Infantry Squad:
50

6 Special Weapons Squad: 3 Grenade Launchers
65

3 Heavy Weapon Teams: 3 Auto Cannons
75

10 Veterans w/ Chimera: 3 Plasma Guns.
170

10 Veterans w/ Chimera: 3 Plasma Guns.
170

Manticor Rocket Launcher.
160

Manticor Rocket Launcher.
160

[The Prince of Excess]

Still illegal, you need to read the Codex man. You have to take 2 Platoon squads AND the Platoon Command to make a legal Platoon, bare minimum.

Your PCS has 3 Plasma but no transport, thus they will die easily and never get to double tap. That's not a good use of points.

Your platoon squad has....nothing. That's useless, a HW is mandatory.

SWS squads are not great on foot, to small and easy to wipe out the guns, or make them run (Ld7). Ditch them or snag them a ride.

The Autocannon team is fine if the Platoon gets legal.

Vets are good although consider 1 unit with meltas, saves points and gives more armor hate, still good against MCs and MEQs too.

Manticores are fine.

List needs to be fixed for legality. At this point I say ditch a Plasma Vet unit, switch the other to Meltas and pocket the points for your Platoon and Company Command.

[Lord Borak]

Go for something like this. It's based off your List and Princes advice.


CCS: Autocannon, Camo - 65pts

Platoon -
PCS: Autocannon - 40pts
Infantry Squad: Autocannon, Grenade Launcher - 65pts
Infantry Squad: Autocannon, Grenade Launcher - 65pts
HWS, 3 Autocannons - 75pts

VETS: Chimera, 3 Melta Guns - 155pts
VETS: Chimera, 3 Melta Guns - 155pts

Manticore: 160pts
Manticore: 160pts

You've got 135pts left over with that. That could buy you a Medusa or Some Sentinels or more infantry. What about loosing the HWs and grabbing another Vet squad with Plasma Guns and a Chimera?? If you keep the ~HWS I'd grab a second just so your opponent has to split fire.

[Virusoffline]

CCS: Autocannon, Camo - 80pts

Platoon -
PCS: Autocannon - 40pts
Infantry Squad: Autocannon, Grenade Launcher - 65pts
Infantry Squad: Autocannon, Grenade Launcher - 65pts

VETS: Chimera, 3 Melta Guns - 155pts
VETS: Chimera, 3 Grenade Launchers - 140pts

Manticore: 160pts
Manticore: 160pts

Medusa: 135pts

Total 1000

[The Prince of Excess]

Not a personal fan of Medusas but looks good. Lots and lots of ordnance. Where'd the 75 points from the Autocannon HWS go? Is my math off?

[Ravendove]

CCS: Autocannon, Camo - 65pts

Platoon -
PCS: Autocannon - 40pts
Infantry Squad: Autocannon, Grenade Launcher - 65pts
Infantry Squad: Autocannon, Grenade Launcher - 65pts
HWS, 3 Autocannons - 75pts

VETS: Chimera, 3 Melta Guns - 155pts
VETS: Chimera, 3 Melta Guns - 155pts

Manticore: 160pts
Manticore: 160pts

You've got 135pts left over with that.

Add another Autocannon HWS, redundancy is good and they will die. Always always always put them in cover. Don't be afraid of going to ground if you need to.

Get some Grenade Launchers into the CCS and PCS too.

[Lord Borak]

Oops, totaly got the CCS points wrong.

New list looks good Virus. With the list you have there i'd ditch the Camo on the CCS and upgrade the Vets to have Melta Guns.

[antique_nova]

that looks like alot for 1000 points at first glance, but you have msot of the competitive elements for 1000 points in there. not much people can do to your 2 manticores.

how about more chimeras? they are more reliable than 3 HWT of autocannons and give your PCS and CCS more mobility and protection. plus an extra heavy flamer and multi-laser never goes amiss ^^. and you might want a regimental standard. they help alot ^^.

personally i wouldn't give PCS and CCS heavy weapons, because it makes them too static for deepstrikers and flankers. but that's personal preferance and experience.
thanks
antique_nova

[==Me==]

Meltas on the Vets would be most useful. I don't think a Medusa is all that necessary when you have 2 Manticores, you might be better served with another HWS as pointed out before.