View Full Version : New Eldar Race For Codex:eldar Elirinchal El-Gilad December 2nd, 2004, 09:39 This is just pure speculation, but after reading some of the wild rumours that fly around this forum and getting my hands on some vintage copies of White Dwarf, I believe I have come up with the solution to this increasing problem: The Chaos Eldar!!!!
In some long-forgotten issue of White Dwarf, released when the Eldar(or "Space Elves")were all shiny and new and the Dark Eldar a rumour on a distant horizen, a complete history of the fall of the Eldar, when the Eldar's own decadence unleashed the daemonic entity known as Slaanesh and doomed the Eldar to a lifetime of terror. This article states, and I quote, "many Eldar remain in the Eye of Terror(once the location of the Eldar Empire, for those who don't know), championing the cause of Chaos on the Daemon Worlds". So know we have the Chaos Eldar, the Eldar equivalent of the Chaos Space Marines, who live within the Eye and bide their time until they shall ride forth into the galaxy and bring the Word of Slaanesh to their misquided brethren.
But how does this tie in with the Dark Eldar? Simple. In the Codex:Chaos Eldar, GW can say something like, "the Chaos Eldar began their bloody crusade by assaulting the Dark Eldar world of Commoragh, destroying it entirely, and crushing the brutal raiders once and for all. Commoragh burned, Slaanesh feasted on souls, and the Chaos Eldar got ready for war."
The list could be a combination of the DE and the Chaos SMs, with splinter rifles and Raiders fighting alongside Daemons and cultists. After all, GW pulled off a similar stunt with the Cult of Slaanesh in Storm of Chaos, which should be a clear indication of GW's plans in the far future.
What do you guys think? Lazarus Valghyran December 2nd, 2004, 20:31 Not Gonna Happen.
Nonononono.
Wrong on so many levels, it's not even funny.
Also, never gonna happen. NurgleWarlord December 2nd, 2004, 20:58 DE are against Chaos so they wouldnt be fightin along side em, their ways are...questionable and it wouldnt be that original.Also u could use da chaos codex, farseer=sorceror lord and just make up reasons wht their guns are as good as bolters and stuff.Maybe after mi rant u will be inspirid to collect Chaos Eldar usin da CSM rools! :) Knights Templar December 2nd, 2004, 22:13 Lets get this straight... Slaanesh = enemy to ALL ELDAR.
Not gunna happen archonofdeath December 2nd, 2004, 22:41 Originally posted by Elirinchal El-Gilad@Dec 2 2004, 02:39
But how does this tie in with the Dark Eldar? Simple. In the Codex:Chaos Eldar, GW can say something like, "the Chaos Eldar began their bloody crusade by assaulting the Dark Eldar world of Commoragh, destroying it entirely, and crushing the brutal raiders once and for all. Commoragh burned, Slaanesh feasted on souls, and the Chaos Eldar got ready for war."263179
Ohh, my God. What the hell is wrong with you? Do you even know the fluff? Noone except the DE know where Commoragh is. And just for clarification, The Warp and Webway are totally different.
If there are Chaos Eldar they could never worship Slaanesh. And their God would have to constantly protect them from her.
Slaanesh would instantly devour their soul.
Though, the Pirates and Harliquins may be fully legalized, and hopefully the Exodites, too. Elirinchal El-Gilad December 3rd, 2004, 09:52 ^_^ OK, this is a response to all the negative thoughts that met my ingenius and original idea, I will answer each of your posts in turn:
Archonofdeath: Slaanesh is a God of Chaos, one of the most powerful entities in the universe, even Khorne the Blood God could not defeat her, do you think she would have problems finding a piddly little planet?
Also, if Slaanesh thought that the Chaos Eldar would help her in her task-namely, devouring the souls of all the Eldar-naturally she would leave them alone. And we know that the Chaos Eldar are pretty much insane anyway, so whats worshipping something that will consume your soul entirely when you giggle and wear underpants on your head? This answers Knightd Templars statement as well.
Nurgle warlord: If you had read my post carefully you would know that the DE were wiped out entirely, so obviously the DE wouldn't ally with them! I simply mentioned including the DE weapons and troop types etc. to give it a more "Eldarish" feel. Thanks for the idea of using the Chaos codex though, I'll start working on it right away, watch this site since I'll probably be posting the list soon.
P.S: Archonofdeath, when did I ever mention ANY similarity between the Warp and the Webway? I'd love to know. Baharroth December 3rd, 2004, 14:01 Originally posted by Elirinchal El-Gilad@Dec 3 2004, 02:52
Archonofdeath: Slaanesh is a God of Chaos, one of the most powerful entities in the universe, even Khorne the Blood God could not defeat her, do you think she would have problems finding a piddly little planet?
Read the chaos codex fool, slaanesh is scared of khorne, to the point she wouldn't even fight him. Yacoby December 3rd, 2004, 14:18 Originally posted by Elirinchal El-Gilad@Dec 3 2004, 08:52
Archonofdeath: Slaanesh is a God of Chaos, one of the most powerful entities in the universe, even Khorne the Blood God could not defeat her, do you think she would have problems finding a piddly little planet?
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The Chaos gods don't know much about the webway, if they did don't u think the webway would be swarming with empores children.
You would find it very hard to wipe out the Commoragh cos the DE would put aside all there arguments and fight the Emp Children end then go back to staping eachother in the back after the battle. there is no map of the Commoragh so the EC would be fighting on unfermilliare ground, the DE would know it V well.
The Commoragh is NOT a planet, its in the webway :realmad: Anacron December 3rd, 2004, 18:09 Elirinchal El-Gilad: I apologise for the rest of the replies you've received here. They weren't really very constructive. <_<
Anyway, I think it's quite a cool idea. But, as others have pointed out rather rudely, it does run into some fluff problems. I can see renegade Eldar remaining in the Eye and at least attempting to worship Slaanesh, but Slaanesh probably wouldn't think much of that. They could just worship Chaos Undivided though. And completely wiping out Comorragh, being Eldar they would probably have access to the Webway, so it may be possible - though unlikely.
I don't think there will be any official Chaos Eldar, but of course if you want to make your own there's nothing stopping you. I would use the Dark Eldar list to represent them the best. :) uller30 December 8th, 2004, 04:56 Um to those that say that only dark eldar know where Commoragh is thats un true. The Laughing God does ONLY GOD of the Eldar to still live. Now who realy worhsips a Laughing GOD well our sweet good old web walking Harliquins :) so they know more than regular craft eldar. But no there will be no Chaos eldar. Even DE hate chaos. I dont have my 2nd Edition Eldar Codex but it says in their their fallen kin and what not and pirates so NO CHAOS ELDAR... crazy kid
The epicentre of the psychic implosion lay within the
heart of the Eldar realms. All Eldar within thousands of
light years were destroyed in an instant, their spirits
sucked into the Warp to feed the hungry god. Even the
Craftworlds were overwhelmed as they fled, and only
those furthest away from the epicentre survived. Upon
the fringes of the galaxy the shockwave slew millions of
Eldar Exodites, leaving only the remotest worlds largely
untouched. In a moment the Eldar had become a
doomed people, reduced to a tiny remnant of refugees
scattered throughout space, knowing that their Great
Enemy had been born and would pursue them for the
rest of eternity. Moonsinger December 8th, 2004, 11:04 Originally posted by Elirinchal El-Gilad@Dec 3 2004, 09:52
^_^ OK, this is a response to all the negative thoughts that met my ingenius and original idea, I will answer each of your posts in turn:
Archonofdeath: Slaanesh is a God of Chaos, one of the most powerful entities in the universe, even Khorne the Blood God could not defeat her, do you think she would have problems finding a piddly little planet?.
P.S: Archonofdeath, when did I ever mention ANY similarity between the Warp and the Webway? I'd love to know.
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Ingenius... rather unrealistic and impossible.
There a Crone Worlds in the Eye of terror that is inhabited by Eldar, but they are a mare shadow of their former self and no one knows how they are staying alive.
You Idea is not original, it has been tosed around many forums allot after the EOT campaign.
The fluff doesn't even back up your idea as Slaanesh would consume the eldar in an instant. ;)
And eldar souls do taste sweet... yummy *chew chew*
If know Slaanesh is so mighty as you say, why can She find the Eldar craftworlds as She "can" find Commonrragh so easy? You can't?
Thought so... :rolleyes:
Well as you think that Slaanesh can find Commonrragh then we must bring up the difrerence betweeen Warp and Web Way. ;)
/Cheers :lol: Ikarus December 10th, 2004, 05:48 chaos eldar... that name doest not even sound good... sounds tarded,
why don't they have chaos everything..... chaos tau.. mwahaha for the common bad.
and if they was to be one, it would not come out anytime soon, or atleast i should feel it not,
All the armies need a revamp, besides the fresh ones.
and we have yet to see the Alien Hunters.
tyranids, orks, eldar need the revamp, and they should be next in line. kmfdm December 10th, 2004, 15:47 why don't they have chaos everything..... chaos tau.. mwahaha for the common bad.
Well that isnt too farfetched sadly.
I remember some tidbit about Commander Farsight is supposedly consumed/possessed by Chaos, at a GD presentation.
Now this I disagree with and totally hated the idea when I heard it.
1- I hate the idea of having Chaos *insert army name*
2- I see Farisght as more of a Tau that looks to the future (hence Farsight) and has come to the realization of all these new aliens that are joining the Tau Empire. Sooner or later the Tau will be the minority and will not be the true ruling force, so he sets out with his own forces trying to disrupt any Tau-Alien relations. I think its also an explanation of why he can't have Kroot in his army. Even SMs can have Kroot, but he can't?
3- We still aren't sure of the physical-mental ramifications of Tau biology with the Warp, but there was that WD that had encouraged Chaos Alien armies and had a converted possessed Crisis Suit.
Sorry about that Tau rant.
I remember when we all heard there was gonna be a new evil Eldar codex to come out, and the majority claimed it was gonna be Chaos Eldar; and there were plenty that were disappointed with "pirates".
So if U do want Chaos Eldar look for that WD that had the alien Chaos Armies. Saruman_II December 10th, 2004, 18:52 This whole thing about chaos Eldar, chaos Tau, etc... I dont think you have thought about the fact it could happen if they were forced against their free will. Yeah, Slaanesh is the bane of all Eldar, but if the Eldar were mind-warped or corrupted, or enslaved in some phychic way they sure sure as hell fight for anyone if the control was absolute. Free will doesn't come into it. (However, a whole enslaved army would be hard pressed for good fluff cos they are all practically zombies..)
Personally I don't like the idea of chaos eldar, but the above was simple a justification that it could happen :) | |