Well, word on the street has it that in the forthcoming chaos FAQ the berserker glaive will not be available for use with any movement modes (ie. speed and flight).

I for one find this quite fair and overdue, as the combination of flight and glaive (and now speed and glaive) really unbalanced the demon prince, making him too fast while ignoring some of the innate disadvantages of the glaive, like running for the closest enemy.

Discuss.

it makes me want to cry.

but hey, rules are rules. if we diden't have rules we'd all be trying to crush each others models during the game.

you shoulda seen me when i was trying to figure out if princes with daemonic speed can fleet of foot.

i sure would like my 12" assault back though.

allmost makes my glaive prince less effective than others.

now if only the dread axe gave that 4+ inv save.

Really, the glaive is just unfair...but what isn't? Twice as many attacks, no saves allowed, 4+ invun....it's great! I use the glaive, flight combo. I would kill GW if they did that. Actually I wouldn't. I'd end up using Aura and Dreadaxe, but that's not nearly as good, and it makes me mad.

Since when could you use the bezerker glaive with flight or speed? It specifically says in the entry for the bezerker glaive that the user cannot use any special movement modes

Last time I checked speed and flight were movement modes. This is from a brand new codex of the 3rd printing so it should be the most current codex avalible.

I haven't seen a codex like that yet, but I'll keep a lookout for it.

it is lso mentioned in the FAQ for the 3rd edition codex, check CA 2004

Man when Chaos players only read the first 2 or 3 lines and think they read it all, read the damned thing to full! It's like saying the blood rage gives additionnal d6 to ALL movements during the turn, while it's an Additionnal mouvement of d6.....

I think the blood God should edit is novel ASAP :glare:

I checked Annual 2004 and my codex and nowhere in there is it mentioned that the glaive cannot be used with flight or speed, only that those movement modes are not compatible with blood frenzy, so no +d6'' extra. Actually the 2004 Annual confirms that the glaive CAN be used with other movement modes. That's why I put it up as a rumor. I don't know if there is a different version of the chaos codex overseas, but in the United Kingdom the situation, to my best knowledge, is as I described.

A beserker glaive can be used with flight and speed however you do net get the extra D6 Blood rage move because if you've got a jump pack strapped to you being beserk aint gonna make it any faster.

Yeah, I know that, incase you missed what the original post was about, it was about disallowing the use of the glaive with flight or speed, ie. you can't be armed with it if you want any of these movement modes.

i just re-read my codex, the glaive say's no steeds counts as a unit in it's own, bla bla bla. nothing about special movement modes being disallowed.