As most of you may know, the Rise of Sotek campaign book and supplements will be released this summer!
Things included are new models (plastic plague monks, for one), new lists (pestilense, lizardmen of the south) and jungle fight scenarios.

Discuss everything about it here, any crazy rumour you can come up with.

Elves will be getting new models as well, in fact lots of the metal units are now coming out in plastic boxes as far as I know. swordmasters, plague priests, lots that I can't think of...

I didn't know there was going to be a Rise of Sotec book though. Has it been officially announced? What will it be like, bit like SoC?

This time I haven't heard anything of an online campaign either, the next one of those is the rise of Nagash as I hear it. That could be wrong though.

Oh yeah, and summer for who? The northern hemisphere or the southern? So will it be start or middle of the year?

Since i haven't heard much I am guessing middle to later in the year...

Probably the Northern hemisphere, as that's where GW is based (the US and UK).

I think this is more of a sub-campaign, as the main campaign is supposed to be 40k this year (they alternate between the two games, I believe). So no global website logging battles (so not like Storm of Chaos).

Should be a good year to start the Lizardmen army I've been thinking about...

Yes, they will release a campaign book this summer (June to August, that is).
It won't be a worldwide campaign like Storm of Chaos, since they are switching between the games as Storm said. It will just be something fun to play with your gaming group.

They have already released a sneak peek for the new plague lord!
http://uk.games-workshop.com/sneakpeeks/warhammer/image1.jpg

also saurus cavalry are supposed to be released in plastic and the lizardmen will get 1 or 2 new units to the list.

Plastic saurus cavalry is a bit unsure, but it's pretty sure that they will have 3 different heads for cold ones. Dark elf, Saurus and skinks. Those titchuhutchi or whatever they're called gets re-released again, with really nice models I heard.
There will also be a couple of skink shamans and skink chieftains.
If the skink list is nice enough, I'm thinking of starting an army with them. Attracted to underdog armies, that's me..

I'm looking forward to this, as it will no doubt be much better than having a huge wordwide campaing for Gave Thorpe to brutaly do over. New units have also been mentioned.
I for one am lookign forward to my goblins dying in funny ways from plauge/plants/bogs/predators.

Any rumours for O&G stuff yet? Although we did get a little in SoC, I'm greedy and I'm not ashamed to ask for more models! :P

There has been no rumours what so ever about O&G, Grimbog.
So I'm afraid there won't be more this summer. Black orcs with GW, new hero, new shaman and crossbow orcs just wasn't enough! :P

Awesome. I've been an avid Lizardmen collector for many years, and I am incredibly happy with the new models thus far (so... damn... HARDCORE!) but they have never had a great unit range. I was disappointed to hear how few new units they received in the new edition, so a few new ones will be welcomed whole-heartedly by me :D

Originally posted by WiCkEdRock@Jan 31 2005, 19:35
There has been no rumours what so ever about O&G, Grimbog.
So I'm afraid there won't be more this summer. Black orcs with GW, new hero, new shaman and crossbow orcs just wasn't enough! :P
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Aww, come on Wicked! That's a perfect opportunity to re-release forest goblins! ;) Or orcs for that matter.

Forest goblins are teh bomb!
They could've done those instead of pestigors and khorngors (which where done because they had extra time)

Extra time..... GW?!?!? lol.
Yea, I want forest goblins, giant spiders ar cool to.. Imagine a big old goblin on the LOTR model Shelob? Ovbiousley that would be some type of boss giant spider... :P

If you think about it, it's just the upper bodies, heads and right arms they have to re-cast and they could do some nice looking plastic sprues for them.

Those spiders were weird looking, they look like orc driders or something!

Any new revelations about the stories that surround Sotek? Even though we know who is going to win, it would be nice to see more detail of Clan Pestilence time in Lustria or what the Slann think about the Serpent God. I doubt I will be playing at all seeing as I play neither army. I will try to use my friends army for a lark but I doubt I will be able to wrestle his skaven away.

Well the Lustria campaign is going to be a summer campaign for the world (but not an online one, in store/gaming club etc only) , nothing like that of SoC or Albion but still a worldwide affair. That's straight from WD 302 UK, so it should happen. It'll be using new rules found in the Lustria book, these include attacks be posionous animals and new rules for jungle fighting (ala Catachan type thing I assume). Its also got rules that allow all armies to be used in the jungles and how they work, the "Rise of Sotek" is a node campaign. A small section going from one battle to another, I expect to find a bit of fluff (hopefully more detailed) about this part of history and the lands of Lustria as well.

Oh and Pirazzo's Lost Legion & Tichi-Huichi's Raiders will get rules updates, models unknown.


The Lustria book is the first in a series, GW aim to create a detailed book of each race's homeland for campaigns etc to add more depth into the FB world. So look out for these appearing throughtout the future.

As for new models it says the following;

"To conincide with the book there'll be several new releases for several Warhammer races"

So I'll assume; Skaven;Lizardmen and maybe High Elves (Citadel of Dawn)

KU

Originally posted by King Ulrik Flamebeard@Feb 11 2005, 10:48
Well the Lustria campaign is going to be a summer campaign for the world (but not an online one, in store/gaming club etc only) , nothing like that of SoC or Albion but still a worldwide affair. That's straight from WD 302 UK, so it should happen. It'll be using new rules found in the Lustria book, these include attacks be posionous animals and new rules for jungle fighting (ala Catachan type thing I assume). Its also got rules that allow all armies to be used in the jungles and how they work, the "Rise of Sotek" is a node campaign. A small section going from one battle to another, I expect to find a bit of fluff (hopefully more detailed) about this part of history and the lands of Lustria as well.

Oh and Pirazzo's Lost Legion & Tichi-Huichi's Raiders will get rules updates, models unknown.
The Lustria book is the first in a series, GW aim to create a detailed book of each race's homeland for campaigns etc to add more depth into the FB world. So look out for these appearing throughtout the future.

As for new models it says the following;
So I'll assume; Skaven;Lizardmen and maybe High Elves (Citadel of Dawn)

KU
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DoW were around back then?!

Well they are, due to the fact they are Lustrian or lost there =P But GW have said they are begining to look at hows best to reintroduce DoW.

KU

I don't think DoW was around back then, but still. Better to release alot of things at once :P

Holy dirt, kids! We got quite some new pictures for you to enjoy.

The oh so popular plastic plaguemonks!:
http://www.photodump.com/direct/WiCkEdRock/Feb1711.jpg
http://www.photodump.com/direct/WiCkEdRock/Feb1714.jpg

(ooooh)

Another High elven mage! We only have 6 now, keep 'em coming!:

http://www.photodump.com/direct/WiCkEdRock/Highelf.jpg

(aaaah)

The rumoured new Saurus Cold one Riders, with new steeds!:

http://www.photodump.com/direct/WiCkEdRock/Coldones.jpg

(errrrr)

IMO the plastic plague monks look like they just have a really bad paintjob. Better paintjob and some easy converting with your hobby knife and they should look plaguey enough.
The High elven mage looks pretty good. Now we have 6 different models. That's more different models then an elite unit have!
The new cold ones.. I'll just wait until I see a better picture. They remind me of the old fleshounds to be honest. Bit crappy from what I can see, and that's too bad. This is the first time GW is this fast with making a new model when they already had one! Last time they did that was with the chaos warriors, and that took a while.

Hope you'll enjoy that.

High Elf Mage: Very good :) I will use that other new one as a High mage and this one as a 'normal' mage.

Plague Monks: They're OK. Not very plague-ish, but still OK.

Cold Ones: From this picture, I think I like the old ones more. These new ones don't look dangerous at all. But indeed I need to see more of them, before I can really tell.

Nice finds WR, the mage can be found as a preview on the GW site now. The plague monks are indeed plastic, and from WD 303 UK, they have tried to make the new monks more slumped and haggard. The tails are sculped onto the model itself and they actually rank up correctly, on the sprue there will be extras including plague swarm bases.

http://www.gw-fanworld.net/index.php?act=ST&f=71&t=36241&

Better pics of the cold ones, unpainted and closer. More armies will be getting plastics soon as well. Talking with an GW employee on Wednesday (at the 'Into The Wastes' tour) he said all armys will have their core choices in plastic at some point (or hopefully will).


KU

So now we have 2 mages, 1 skaven hero, plastic monks, new cold ones for the Sotek for sure. Looking good :)
Anyone got any pics on some other releases this summer?

EDIT: found this one:
http://www.photodump.com/direct/WiCkEdRock/skavchar016uc.jpg

Really nice conversion or the new model for Nurglitch from clan pestilence riding a giant rat, with one of the new plague censer bearers next to him?

And should we move this to rumours, Ulrik? Just seems to fit better there :P

Aaaand a ranked up regiment of Plague monks:
http://img225.exs.cx/img225/306/photo0875hh.jpg

This new mage is definitely better than the one who is rolling around on a a big bouncy ball.

Was that the only problem you had with the mage? I was more annoyed on the fact that it looked like a transvestite :P

Originally posted by WiCkEdRock@Feb 20 2005, 15:58
Was that the only problem you had with the mage? I was more annoyed on the fact that it looked like a transvestite :P
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wait, High Elves aren't supposed to look like transvestites?

I have also heard tell of some new skaven stuff... has anyone heard anything about some slaves?

Not that picking 'unarmored' heads and bodies from the clanrats box isn't fun, you know the difference between rags and your average clanrats 'ragmail' is massive and noticeable...

Those cold ones are amazing they look... what's the word... good, yes, I'm not used to using it to describing cold ones.

Which makes me glad I bought 4 boxes of the old ones. Saurus cavalry... yippee

Bawdy, it's just that normally the males look like females, the females don't normally look like males ;)

I haven't heard anything for slaves, although it's desperately needed! The only slaves we have now is metal ones from 4th/5th ed, right?

Unless you count picking through clanrat parts to find 'weaker' looking ones. The distinction is, after all, massive, and I have never accidentally confused a single clanrat for a slave, let alone an entire unit...

Holy dirt, kids! More pictures!
Gotta start stealing from other rumor forums now with Portent down ;/

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Trugdor/ten.jpg

Teneheuin or whatever his name is. Prophet of Sotek (I think)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Trugdor/sotek.jpg

Engine of the gods, with some new rat ogres at the bottom? Maybe just converted, was a long time ago since I saw a rat ogre.
And in the bottom left there's a pretty cool lizardface. What could it be.. The forked tongue says it's a snake of some sort. And what snake is that big? ;)

What is that at the base of the possible Prophet of Sotek? It looks kind of like a body
I am really interested in seeing what the "engine of the gods" is. That thing looks pretty serious.

The campaign book release is either April or May, I need to check the release schedule again when I get back to the shop.

They uploaded the release schedule somewhere.. anyone have the link? ;/

It looks like a gutted skaven with snakes around it.
And about the machine of the old ones.. conversion or actual model? Would be pretty damn awesome if they released a lizard that big :D

Is the rise of Sotek campaign book only about Lizardmen, skaven, and HE? No empire, dwarfs and Orcs? :closedeyes:

Originally posted by Magic69@Mar 16 2005, 16:41
Is the rise of Sotek campaign book only about Lizardmen, skaven, and HE? No empire, dwarfs and Orcs? :closedeyes:
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I've heard rumors of VCs making an appearance, and there is SUPPOSE to be a 6th VC bloodline introduced at some point (the concept was created when the VC book came out, but not implemented), so I'm crossing my fingers.

However, people are going to have to get to use that every campaign book can't equally include every single race and army. Empire, Dwarves, Orcs, and Chaos all had a pretty big portion in SoC, so it would be a good guess that they won't have a big part in this campaign book.

Well hopefully GW would be cool enough to make an Empire Expedition force or exploration of some sort but, no....but we don't know that yet.

Originally posted by Magic69@Mar 16 2005, 17:33
Well hopefully GW would be cool enough to make an Empire Expedition force or exploration of some sort but, no....but we don't know that yet.
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I bet odds are the next big Empire thing will be some sort of Sigmar army, either a Cult of Sigmar or a Witchhunter's force.

Hate to break it to you guys but this is taking place in the year -15 IC or so. The vampire Haarkon was yet to wash up on shore and Sigmar was just born. Under the same sign of Sotek no less...

Originally posted by Bawdymonkey@Mar 16 2005, 18:23
Hate to break it to you guys but this is taking place in the year -15 IC or so. The vampire Haarkon was yet to wash up on shore and Sigmar was just born. Under the same sign of Sotek no less...
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The twin-tailed comet happens at 0. When I said Witchhunters and Cult of Sigmar, I meant in the future, as I doubt Empire will get any spotlight this campaign, or atleast very little.

As far as Vampires and such, Nagash, Lahmia, etc all happened "about four and a half thousand years before present time" (page 4, most recent VC codex). Now, as far as I know, we're around 2,500 or so, so 4.5k ago would be around -2k. I'd say it is a distinct possibility for some sort of vampires to be around, especially some other bloodline.

At the very least, Lustria around this time should have Dark Elves as well as everything else mentioned, as they began raiding the area about 200 years before Sotek.

Originally posted by OmnipotentKiwi@Mar 16 2005, 21:58
The twin-tailed comet happens at 0. When I said Witchhunters and Cult of Sigmar, I meant in the future, as I doubt Empire will get any spotlight this campaign, or atleast very little.

As far as Vampires and such, Nagash, Lahmia, etc all happened "about four and a half thousand years before present time" (page 4, most recent VC codex). Now, as far as I know, we're around 2,500 or so, so 4.5k ago would be around -2k. I'd say it is a distinct possibility for some sort of vampires to be around, especially some other bloodline.

At the very least, Lustria around this time should have Dark Elves as well as everything else mentioned, as they began raiding the area about 200 years before Sotek.
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Right, the twin-tailed comet appeared at Sigmar's crowning, I forgot which moment it appeared. But did it also happen at his birth? Anyway, the point was still the same. There can't possibly be any Empire in the campaign. They were little more than barbarians back then. Lost Eriksson, the first human to land on Lustria did not discover it until 800 something. And Haarkon was the first (and prehaps the only) Vampire to get to Lustria. That was even longer after. After the destruction of Lhamia, one went to Cathay, one went to the Chaos Wastes, and the others went to the Old World. So in summary, there could be no conceivable way to bring in Undead or humans.

IIRC GW have said the book is twofold, on one hand they have a historic 'node' campaign of the Skaven and Lizardmen only. Then on the other they have rules to allow any army in Lustria, basically you'll get a set of rules that will allow you to make it seem like the army is in a jungle and suffer so. There's hidden traps and creatures (posionous snakes have been meantioned) and armies can suffer from heat exaustion etc.

And the book itself will hold a lot of info and fluff on the lands of Lustria itself.


Ku

Holy dirt, kids! Even more pictures! Big thanks to Nemy for scanning the pictures.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/WiCkEdRock/rgrdgf.jpg

It's now official, it really is the model for nurglicht.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/WiCkEdRock/Namnlöst-4kopiera.jpg

Bit bigger picture on the machine of the old ones.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/WiCkEdRock/Namnlöst-3kopiera.jpg

The prophet of Sotek.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/WiCkEdRock/Namnlöst-2kopiera.jpg

Cauldron of a thousand poxes, some plague monks and some rat ogres.
It doesn't look like any of the old rat ogres and there's no packmasters behind them. Maybe we'll be getting plastic rat ogres after all? :D
Some of the plague monks seem to have flails, not sure. If they had flails that would be crazy. Banner of burning hatred and a 7 wide unit would be insane.

So thats what Nurglitch looks like. Is he the only official Lord of Decay that has a model?

Well, haven't seen any other models for them.

arn't DE going to be a part of the campain?
I mean there ARE new cold ones... the DE got to catch some new ones right :P... and HE are involved... DE can't let HE get all fun, DE want a piece of the cake too!

Umm.. where the hell did the HE's come from? This is how it is...

The book is a source book to allow games based in Lustria or Lustria type enviroments, it has full rules for doing as such. And each army can be used here I think with specific rules to some.

The Rise Of Sotek is a historic node campaign involving skaven and lizardmen the Asur never even come into the equation here. Never.

There will be a small world wide campaign created for the summer using the new Lustria rules, this will be open to all races and will take part in Lustria but is not the RoS.

This is all taken from the small section on Lustria in WD 303 UK


KU

I heard that this small campaign will have effects on an upcoming big worldwide campaign. Sorta like Albion did, I guess.
What effects could the lizardmen vs. pestilence war have on anything?

Maybe the joining of Skaven and Chaos? After all, Skaven are a lower form of Chaos. In reality they should fight alongside each other.

Umm.. how will the mini cmapaign affect anything if it's already gone and finished? The mini campaign is a historicnumber of battles fought a number of years before(? Or was it at his birth? Crital Hits doesn't give a date for the RoS but it's placed between -1 and 1).

The WW campaign is a modern day one, IIRC the basic idea is they're all going to hunt for treasure. The RoS will have no baring on this.

Exterminatus-Squeebie Posted Today, 14:09
Maybe the joining of Skaven and Chaos? After all, Skaven are a lower form of Chaos. In reality they should fight alongside each other.

No, skaven are a seperate entity. Yes warpstone may have had some baring on their creation but essentially skaven aren't classed as chaos.


KU

What's the WW campaign? o.O

World Wide campaign, based in modern or near modern Old World.


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The Spanish GW site has this up;

http://www.games-workshop.es/warhammer/cam...stria/index.asp (http://www.games-workshop.es/warhammer/campanas/lustria/index.asp)

A preview, to the campaign? Though it's only a pic.

KU

Originally posted by King Ulrik Flamebeard@Mar 19 2005, 08:38
The Spanish GW site has this up;

http://www.games-workshop.es/warhammer/cam...stria/index.asp (http://www.games-workshop.es/warhammer/campanas/lustria/index.asp)

A preview, to the campaign? Though it's only a pic.

KU
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I thought they were doing no WW campaign this year, and that Rise of Sotek was a replacement for it? The Spanish site thing says "Prepare your troops for the conquering of the new world" (roughly, my Spanish is not the best).

Originally posted by OmnipotentKiwi@Mar 19 2005, 12:49
I thought they were doing no WW campaign this year, and that Rise of Sotek was a replacement for it? The Spanish site thing says "Prepare your troops for the conquering of the new world" (roughly, my Spanish is not the best).
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Really? I hope its like RISK! I call red team :D . I saw empire troops there so, I'd say its safe to say that there could be some subcampains for the empire of some sort. How did the Skaven get all the way to Lustria? By boat? thanks

Basically it's going to be a small summer campaign to launch the new Lustria book, AFAIU (Understand ;) ). So no big campaign on the SoC scale, it may even be a store only thing for school summer hols etc. But in WD302 (sorry been saying wrong issue :blush: ) UK they say it's a campaign for the summer.


Conquest of the New World

* New summer activity
*Play in store, at home & in clubs
*A whole new enviroment to battle through

"The Conquest Of The New World is a self-contained campaign designed to complemetn the Lustria book. You too can join the race to plunder the riches of Lustrai in this special summer activity"

Well ok, so it's not an online and doesn't say world wide but I'd presume it be done world wide.


KU

Holy dirt, kids! More pictures! Sprues for stuff and all that.


Lustria Cover:
http://paizo.com/image/product/catalog/GAW/GAW80-07_360.jpeg

Plague censer bearers!:
http://www.daemonicaura.com/misc/montreal005.jpg

Nurglicht and plague censers:
http://www.daemonicaura.com/misc/montreal006.jpg

Plague censers and giant rats (I think):
http://www.daemonicaura.com/misc/montreal007.jpg

And more..

Sprues for plague monks:
http://www.daemonicaura.com/misc/montreal008.jpg

Warlord thingy:
http://www.daemonicaura.com/misc/montreal009.jpg

Plastic RBT's:
http://www.daemonicaura.com/misc/montreal011.jpg

Phoenix lord hero:
http://www.daemonicaura.com/misc/montreal012.jpg

Sea Guard hero:
http://www.daemonicaura.com/misc/montreal013.jpg

Skink chiefs?:
http://www.daemonicaura.com/misc/montreal014.jpg

Skink priest:
http://www.daemonicaura.com/misc/montreal015.jpg

Im really glad to see some new skink hero models, tho I wonder why non-human/elf models always have things stuck in their skin. The new skink priest with the cloak of feathers looks really good, much better than the one that came out with the last army book, which looks like he is having a stretch and a yawn.

bit of fluff b/g regarding skaven - theyre a type of beastmen from an ancient incursion by chaos, so yes they are a result of chaos, but then so are warhammer humans to an extent, and there are many differently aligned factions of humans in the warhammer world. The skaven are such an ancient species that any allegience to chaos left them a long long time ago, so for all intents and purposes, they are seperate from chaos and likely to have totally opposite aims (they want empire, chaos wants desruction)

Some rumours from some guy that I don't know who he is.

Hi guys

The Warhammer Realms: Lustria book contains three sections:
1. Jungle fighting - rules for fighting games of Warhammer in varying degrees of jungle terrain (undergrowth, dense jungle, etc.), six new jungle scenarios and a color section for modeling such.
2. A generic campaign system called a Node Campaign. It is generic in that all the terms used are generic (ie. town, village, river etc.)
and
3. Rise of Sotek - background on and rules for refighting the historical battles between what became the mighty Clan Pestilens and the emergence of the god Sotek. Included are a Node Campaign "overlay" or "skin", lists for the Bubonic Court of Nurglitch and the Red Crested Skinks, and a color section featuring models for Skaven and Lizardmen, as well as cool conversions for two new entries in the aforementioned lists.

This summer's activity is based around a supplement that most countries will be bagging with their WD. In US and Canada it will be with WD#304 (May issue) This supplement is called "Conquest of the New World" and is based around the flood of treasure seekers that poured into Lustria when news of the fabled land and it's riches returned to the Old World with Marco Columbo.
This booklet contains the "Conquest" Node Campaign skin, a few new scenarios, three Dogs of War regiments (Pirrazzo's Lost Legion, Tuichi-Huichi's Raiders, and Zombie Pirates.

In US and Canada WD#305 you'll find the "Conquest" skin for The General's Compendium Map-based campaign format as well as the Zombie Pirates full list and a double sided poster/map.

The focus this year is much less on the GLOBAL approach and as such there will be no global tracking of individual game results. We're looking much more local. Currently there are plans to build an Online Campaign Assistant to help local campaign organizers but plans are not fully finalized, so that may change.

This summer it's all about thinking local, and having some Warhammer fun in the sweltering jungle heat (just like Baltimore in July).

Cheers
Dave Taylor

Please note: plans for activity and focus may change from country to country.

Pictures, pictures, pictures..

http://uk.games-workshop.com/sneakpeeks/warhammer/image1.jpg


Mages:
http://fr.games-workshop.com/storefront/ne...ze=A&Img=254974 (http://fr.games-workshop.com/storefront/newimage.asp?Size=A&Img=254974)

Heroes:
http://fr.games-workshop.com/storefront/ne...ze=A&Img=254975 (http://fr.games-workshop.com/storefront/newimage.asp?Size=A&Img=254975)

Plague Lord:
http://fr.games-workshop.com/storefront/ne...ze=A&Img=255007 (http://fr.games-workshop.com/storefront/newimage.asp?Size=A&Img=255007)

Plague censers:
http://fr.games-workshop.com/storefront/ne...ze=A&Img=255006 (http://fr.games-workshop.com/storefront/newimage.asp?Size=A&Img=255006)

Anyone know what will come in the Lizardmen battalion? Anything good? I know that the new cold ones will be in it probally.

The campaign looks quite promising, just a shame there is only 2 armylists in the book and some of the rules look really good and i cant wait till they release the 2 army boxes soon.

I think the new huge dinosaur is a converison, that what guys work at GW said to me.

That has been confirmed by Phil Kelly at GD Atlanta