Is it just me, or does just about everyone (not quite everyone, but most) have way too many Wins and way too few losses in their W/D/L things in their signatures?

I mean, come on - unless you're really that good and your opponent sucks that bad, you're going to lose at least once. Is it all true? Or not?

I'm just tired of seeing all of these 10/2/0, 33/2/0, 18/3/3, and stuff like that. It gets boring after a while, don't you think?

Originally posted by Lost Nemesis@Feb 8 2005, 02:06
Is it just me, or does just about everyone (not quite everyone, but most) have way too many Wins and way too few losses in their W/D/L things in their signatures?

I mean, come on - unless you're really that good and your opponent sucks that bad, you're going to lose at least once. Is it all true? Or not?

I'm just tired of seeing all of these 10/2/0, 33/2/0, 18/3/3, and stuff like that. It gets boring after a while, don't you think?
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heh, you haven't seen my fantasy streak, have you?
i'm a god of 40k at winning (my luck is so not fair...), but fantasy i'll never win...

i think i got a W/D/L of 0/2/53 now...that's right, over 50 games and not a single win...maybe i just can't play with TK, not good enough...

I think yer on to something Nemisis

Dig this. (http://www.librarium-online.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=22855&hl=loss+record)

It's inevetable that some people will be dishonest about thier records.I mean c'mon it's an online forum,it's not like we can prove them wrong.

yeah, no shame in sucking, Edicus...

the most amazing army i've ever seen was played by someone who shall we say, wasn't good at gaming. He loses no respect from me for losing alot, because he's got skills in a different area that i wish i had...

and all too often, the most common people around at a GW shop is a new kid who hasn't played enough games yet to learn how to get their stuff right. it's not hard to win against the, so i guess, once you strip those sorts of wins away, it looks a lot more even...

Could be that my opponents bring the suck. No offense, guys :P

last year i never won a game but i am erasing that cos i stand by the fact that they werent real games because they had unlimmited turn. i started one for this year and so far im 0/0/1

mine are true. I just think that the people with good ratios are the only ones who show their w/l/d in their sigs.

well, maybe they have so many wins because they are members of this forum! the more experianced members give the less experianced guys tips and tactics, so they then use those tips and tactics and win :D

before i joined this forum, i was like (w/d/l) 2/0/12, but now it's more like 28/3/14!!!

I dont play to win. Well okay I do but it doesn't bother me when I lose except when I have no chance of winning in the first place.

It's the taking part that counts?

I don't tend to pay too much attention to the win trackers, I think it the case that some people think they will be taken more seriously if they show one saying 28 zillion wins and no losses - which is sad, and lonely. If you can win 30 games straight without losing you should look for more challenging players to fight, and stop playing against your little sister 8)

The problem I have with W/L/D ratios is that I tend to forget the numbers after a while. If I change my sig I'll end up forgetting thewm, like I did with my cadians.
My goblin stats are real though, they're aquired from april 2004 until today.
If i posted my dwarf ratio I'd probably be a laughing stock. ( I dont have it, but I lost a lot of games with them, not played them for over a year now)

I never keep track. In fact until you guys pointed it out i didn't even notice the wins/losses ratios :blink: If people do lie about them then i know for a fact that i don't care wether or not you win most of the time or lose alot. your avatar and post counter will bring you more (not much) respect than your # of winnings. But i remember starting out i lost ALOT of games then won a good amount......but now i'm back on my loseing streak :hmm: I played my orks soo much that my friends know all of my strats and tricks now. I mainlly face necorons, space marines, and chaos. They don't rely on straregy near as much as i do so i've lost the last 4 games so far. When i get my Black leigion, Tau, or Imperial fists army started (i can't deside whitch one to choose) then well see who's laughing I"LL GET ARMOR SAVES AND GOOD BS muuahahahahahaha!

Originally posted by Lost Nemesis@Feb 8 2005, 03:06
Is it just me, or does just about everyone (not quite everyone, but most) have way too many Wins and way too few losses in their W/D/L things in their signatures?

I mean, come on - unless you're really that good and your opponent sucks that bad, you're going to lose at least once. Is it all true? Or not?

I'm just tired of seeing all of these 10/2/0, 33/2/0, 18/3/3, and stuff like that. It gets boring after a while, don't you think?
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Indeed it can be questionised... but what if you REALLY are that good?

For example: Myself...
I am very hard to beat with my dark eldar and sence I started to play them again (had a break from them playing Emperors Children and Tau) I have gone 9 wins and 1 loss.
And that is 90% wins...

Yes, it can be true but sometimes, its just redicolous.. Seen once like 56/2/1 or something similar.


and stop playing against your little sister
Though maybe that sister is a good player that kicks his army everytime they meet ?;)
hehe :lol:
//Cheers

If you really would like to see a good score on a w, l, d ratio. newbies
should have high experiences of losses, as gamers gain experience the
loss ratio goes down and the win ratio goes up. Simple Science.

I used to have a Win/Loss/Draw record, but it was something like 2/5/0. It got cleaned when all of the signatures were erased. I just didn't bother to put it back up.

Some players have high win ratios because they exploit the black holes in the rules, going against game ballance and fluff.

Good examples of this are-

The Space Marine player who buys a Squad of Grey Knights purely to take out his opponents Seer Council even though

1. Fluffwise there is no reason why a Psycannon would ignore rune armour.

2. Fluffwise the Daemonhunters finest would not show up with the chapter in every battle just to teach some warlocks a lesson.

The Chaos player who gives a character multiple Slaaneshi minor psychic powers (in order to get Siren) and a Ether Lance then procedes to shoot it at everything with no fear of retribution.

1. In the description it says the caster appears as a loved one, surely them shooting at you would be a hint it was an enemy.

2. Armies without a psychic hood are literally screwed once this guy appears, they have to wait for him to fail a psychic power test which could do a lot of damage first. This would be the case no matter how good the player was.

People who buy forgeworld flyers especially to battle close combat armies

1. Unless the player can prepare his army in advance the flyer player is exploiting the rules. Afterall why should World Eaters go around with flak cannons on the odd chance that someone buys an overpriced lump of resin?

2. It could be seen as exploiting your opponents financial position (especially if your a WYSIWYG Nazi too)


Stuff like this is ok in tournaments if the rules allow it, but are not stunts you want to pull on friends if you want them to still play you.

LOL i play with people like that all the time! The worst is my buddies like to use a speaical carators EVERY BATTLE. When abaddon is leading a 2000 point combat patrol and also happens to be faceing Ragnar blackmane leading his 1000 point scout army teamed up with commisar yarrick and his platoon of cadian guardsmen you start to get annoyed. I mean the galaxy is a huge place and when are 3 or more of the most important leaders in the galaxy going to lead a rescue to recover some lost tablets?? I think there should be more resticktions on speaical caractor use.

Ps: yes im still to lazy to use spellcheck :hmm:

I don't keep a W/L/D Record, but my DE would be somewhere around

12/25/4

but my SW's would be more along the lines of

72/56/14

When I first started Space Wolves I actually went 12-0 in my first legal 12 games. It was mainly due to lucky rolling, as I was unfamiliar with the army, or 40k in general. As far as how many games I've played, I play about 9-12 games a week, so neh... Also, my highest loss percentage is against my friend (who is a master strategist I might add) 's Eldar army, against which I am around 4/19/3. And he doesn't even use Wraithlords. Says he doesn't believe in them.

Originally posted by Moonsinger@Feb 8 2005, 16:26
Indeed it can be questionised... but what if you REALLY are that good?

For example: Myself...
I am very hard to beat with my dark eldar and sence I started to play them again (had a break from them playing Emperors Children and Tau) I have gone 9 wins and 1 loss.
And that is 90% wins...

Yes, it can be true but sometimes, its just redicolous.. Seen once like 56/2/1 or something similar.
Though maybe that sister is a good player that kicks his army everytime they meet ?;)
hehe :lol:
//Cheers
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If you REALLY are that good why would you feel the need to advertise? :D I think a lot of the win trackers are posted by people that aren't very good but because this is online no one has any real way of verifiying it.

If their little sister was really good, surely their win tracker would show lots of losses :P :P :P

Well, in case of Moonsinger i can verify it. She knows how to use dark eldar.

jwu

Originally posted by ArchonAstaroth@Feb 9 2005, 06:40
Well, in case of Moonsinger i can verify it. She knows how to use dark eldar.

jwu
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Kind of proves my point though, she is really good as you have verified and doesn't display a win tracker as she doesn't feel she has something to prove 8)

Honestly, my w/l/d record since getting back into the hobby 1 year ago is

2/6/0

I know what you're saying " only 8 games in a YEAR?". Yes, but then again I really love painting and modelling, I have a VERY time consuming job, and I never field units unless they are painted AND based. I may not be the best gamer in the world, but I am an above- average painter, so there :P

Actually, I don't mind losing. I find it very humorous that my landspeeder couldn't hit the broad side of a barn at point-blank range :D

hmm lets see

space marines 10/2/70 (almost all losses handed to me on a silver platter by nebulas)
imperial guard 3/1/0 two of which vs nebulas i think i might be getting better :D

I doubt anyone is lying about their WLD.


Maybe one.


I have no idea of my WLD record before I found Librarium Online because I didn't think of keeping track. Since coming to Librarium I have learnt a lot of strategy and have become a much better player, and so naturally if I started a WLD record it would be from when I find Librarium, and it would be better than average.

If this is not the case for most people then there is one more obvious reason for the seemingly out of proportion WLD records. And I can't believe thant only one person has mentioned it so far.


Maybe two.


If you have a bad WLD, you dont tell it. If you have a good WLD you are more likely to tell it. Thus we only see good WLD records.

:) I usually only play my friends and my bro and they all suck so it is a rare for me to lose. I've always wanted to go to my local GW but i a slow painter and its more fun to play with your friends.

since i started playing again i think im something like 9/1/1

Well me = been playing since 2nd edition.

I'm only 15, and i've been into this game since i was... 9? i think.. hah.. gorkamorka.. love that stuff..

I have all codexs in hand and on PDF
I have all IALS.
chapter approves, and new rulebook.
I read non-gaming war books like the ART OF WAR, and such.
I play eldar dominatly, and eldar can't make mistakes.. or else they die...

been going against PURE SM for 4 years! THATS TORTURE. but then all my tactics are executable vs power armour foes... and horde armies, my area has yet to grow some more, though there are some that game pretty good.

i run down lots of plays beforehand the game, seeing how I WOULD approach the enemy, and possible variables that may offset my gaming. and make sure i prevent it.

war is something that is ever constant.. wh40k is something that is part of me 24/7, and im not joking. there has not been one day... i haven't stopped thinking of wh40k... everything somehow relates to it...

so my understanding of the game is pretty high, but not grand.

My score has been only resetted around two times.. as now there are 20 local players in my clan XD. everyone starts off new.. and the real wins will start to kick it, as i'm the leader... doesn't mean im the best.. there are a select few who keeps me on my toes...

though I haven't received much loses. only around 3-4 out of twenty so far..
* gunna fight around 3-4 more battles this week* XD

and yes, im saying I am ok player.. whoever gives me a loss.. i'll post a loss...
as the person who gives it to me, will make sure i post it, as its a grand victory for them.

(just stating my point, that you cant just auto say that people who post WLD are nubs... or such)


and I dont care much if people don't believe my record XD. Its for my own reference!

anyone who lives in Seattle/Renton Washington US. haha thats in reasonable teen age... no 30 year olds.. -_-
who wanna battle.. hah i can sure prove it...
with my selection of my 7-8k eldar army.. and growing...
XD!

Well I use Iron Warriors and Traitor Guard.. my current force is:
1 warsmith
8 man Tactical squad
8 man tactical squad
5 Havocs
Leman Russ tank
2x 3 man IG Heavy weapon platoon
command squad and 4 10-man squads

And I have only ever won one game... I need to work on my army composition and tactics methinks.
But the main opponent has been equal points of Blood Angels on a slightly smaller board... it's absolute HELL.
My w/l/d is
1/8/2

Why do I keep one?

Because I want too.
I like to keep stats...I dont know why, I just do...I like keeping a record of win or losses.
And my sig seems like a decent enough place to do it.

Yours seems more realistic than most. Even though you have to be a real good player who doesn't face as good players alot to win 2 times and many games as you lose it is still beleaveable. Unlike lots of the others we see.

Well Ive still got 3 more wins to go before my wins are double my losses...and with multiple games coming up vs tyranids and my form over the last five games being (Most recent game last) WLLLD, it wont stay like that hehe...

Bearing in mind the four games Ive had against this nids player have been DDDL, so Ive still to win against him.

I can understand why many people may not "Belielve" someones game stats, but I like to think Im an hoest kind of guy...that, and I dont see the point of making false stats up on an online forum.
Im not after praise or owt, just as I said before...I like keeping stats, and my sig seems like a nice, tidy (Unlike my desk or PC XD) to do it.

I can see what your getting at (take a look at my sig)


The records I keep are only for this year, and, well most of the people I get to play just dont know how to play the blooming game (its been a while since Ive had a decent friendly game)


Oh, and I dont include my tournament wins/draw/losses (If I did I would almost definetly have more losses than wins by now)

I find it had to believe people play so few games. I don't post my WLD, but my chaos 1000, 1500, and 3000pt lists are on a 6month win streak, 1 game so far came really close to draw(SOB.)

I lie on mine.
Cos it makes me feel cool and I like to show off how great I am.

This thread is three years old. Why the sudden resurgence?