Hey all. I'd like to raise a gaming etiquette subject..

Accidently dropping a dice (or 2) before you roll a handful.. To me its always been a touchy moment..
If the 'accidental' roll is a fail, you dont want to keep the failed roll, but you feel bad about saying it wasnt really the roll and picking it up again..
On the other hand, if it is a successful 'roll', you feel bad about saying 'that counts!!'

What do you guys do?

Cheers

For me, anything that stops its roll and is seen by myself or anyone else counts. If I accidentally drop a die to the table before I meant to, I'll attempt to catch it on its bounce; if one rolls off the table, I try to get ahold of it without looking at the result and re-roll it on the tabletop. Should I miss the grab in the former case or if the result is visible in the latter, I accept what's been done.

That's just my system, though; if my buddies don't adhere to it, I don't mind. I'll call them to be more careful if they have repeated "accidental" rolls, though.

ifi accidently drop a dice, i pick it up and roll it with the lot regardless of the outcome, even if its a rending 6 :P

your opponent will know whats a real roll and what isnt :shifty:

I'll have it count as a roll.

I only drop them when I've got a big handful to roll, in which case it's impossible to pick the dice up again without taking ages.

Do watch out for people that will drop a few and then hit the dice with the main roll, changing the results. Can be crafty sometimes...

If I drop a few when I'm ready to roll, I'll just quickly roll the rest of them, making whatever i dropped a part of my roll before I had a chance to think about the result (or possibly even before the die has settled). If I drop a few well before I'm ready to roll, I'll pick them up again. My friends and I are competitive, we debate rules and the likes, but nobody cheats. It's a game, and winning means nothing if you don't play fair.

If dice go off the table, it's normally a case of quickly yelling "Counts!" or "Doesn't count!" before the die has come to a halt. We're not really fussed what's called, and I'm pretty sure none of us even has one call that we always stick with, it's whatever catches our fancy at the instant. As long as you call it before you see the result, it's all good. And if you don't, generally it counts.

If it goes off he table it has to be re-rolled.

Yeah, I usually re-roll anything that was dropped regardless of the outcome. This also includes anything that goes off the table. I consider something to be a "drop" if it isn't part of a large singular roll. So if I'm rolling 10 dice and two come out before the other eight, those are drops.

Normally try to grab them before they have settled if not I will re-roll them any way.

Usually only happens when you are trying to roll too many at once :)

Any dice that falls and stays on the table is a roll, where I come from. The floor has bad energy :D

Accidental drops =/= rolls. Pick 'em up quick, and if it's a good roll make a note of letting people know about your principles, so that they recognize your intention and are not anal when you accidentally roll something bad and re-roll.

I reroll it. I try and scoop it up quickly and then dump the whole batch, but regardless, I reroll it. The opponent knows it was an accident, and we've always considered anyone who keeps the dropped dice a schmo.

I guess I would be considered a schmo then. I just take the result of the dropped dice, no matter what it turns out to be. The dice fell, tumbled a few times, and then turned up a number - sounds like a roll to me. Me picking the thing up and giving it three magic shakes followed by a majestic release will not make the number result any more or less legitimate than an accidental drop.

I always pick it up and re-roll it. Generally I never roll more dice than I can fit in one hand so I always have a free hand to swoop it up and put it back with the others often before I have a chance to view the result.

I don't think either way is wrong, so long as you don't look at the result before you roll the other dice, then it's a bit dodgy I would have thought. It's not something I've ever come across as a problem though :)

Generally you can tell what a roll is and what a drop is pretty easily. If you're grabbing the dice and some fall out that's a drop and they get put back in your hand. If your hand is moving and dice fall out that's just an early part of the roll, deal with it.

My policy: be consistant.

If a "dropped die" isn't rolled, then all dropped die are re-rolled(even the 6's).
Its when people only go "oops" when its a "failed" roll is when its cheating. Plain and simple.
But if you play consistantly, nobody will complain.
(though floor die are ALWAYS re-rolled... unless you ARE playing on the floor).

If a stray dice hits the floor then reroll. If I am rolling 20 of them for my savage orc boar boyz on the charge and drop one I always pick it up and roll it with the rest regardless of it is a 6 or a 1.

I never take the result of a dropped dice - it always get rolled properly, and that's been the case with anyone I've played.

You can tell a drop from a roll - a roll tends to have a specific wrist action, often peculiar to each player*, that a drop just won't have (and usually they'll try to catch/trap a dropped dice).

* for example, the 'shoo' throw, palm up, palm down etc. etc.

My policy: be consistant.

If a "dropped die" isn't rolled, then all dropped die are re-rolled(even the 6's).
Its when people only go "oops" when its a "failed" roll is when its cheating. Plain and simple.
But if you play consistantly, nobody will complain.
(though floor die are ALWAYS re-rolled... unless you ARE playing on the floor).

/agreed

For myself, I always reroll drops. I often have folks say "You coulda kept that one" but if you are consistent, "luck" evens out.

I also always reroll even slightly cocked dice. Some folks go for the 45 degree rule-of-thumb, but I prefer not to be estimating angles when I can just roll and keep playing.

One other dice tip: roll your scatter next to the thing that is scattering. It is just lame to have to guestimate the direction of the arrow from 2 feet away.

MY group does ALOT of rerolling! Anything that lands on the floor is an automatic reroll, no questions asked. And anything that drops before the roll is usually caught on the bounce or just after, and popped back into our hands. We also re-roll 'tilts'. When the die is caught on bases, rocks, terrain etc. and there is any shadow of a doubt on the possible numbers. We have never argued about dice rolls. And as long as both players treat rolls in a mutual fashion it doesn't really affect the game for good or bad.

I think I agree with the majority in that a dropped die doesn't count, no matter the result. Same with anything off the table. Where I play, 'cocked' die, or dice that aren't on even ground are also rerolled entirely rather than moving the obstruction to achieve a roll.

-TDP

I pick it up and re roll it. Even if the 'dropped' result is a pass.

I don't care what other players do, I trust the people around me to be fair. If it drops on the table for me, I'll reroll if its a pass, keep it if it fails. If it falls on the ground, I'll reroll. No trouble.

I find that putting a spin on it actually adds to the effect. Something about whipping dice and trying to get the lucky roll really makes the end result quite awesome if you make it. If dice land on the floor, you reroll. I ahve never seen somebody cheat like that, although i must admit, this one guy was fairly smart when he had 4-5 cocked dice mixed in to a handful of regular dice. He knew which were which to, and would pull them out at the most oppertunistic times. He always seemed to get unnaturally good rolls, with 1 or 2's mixed in

Alright so most people dont keep drops. As long as they are consistant. Its easy to have house rules like that when you know the opponent & they know your principles. but at a tourney, they dont. Your first drop might be a fail, then you pick it up and re-roll it (just sticking to your principles) and you get a funny look from across the table..

Ive also had situations where opponents will have a good roll (say, to hit). Then they'll pick them up to roll to wound, and kind've just 'drop' them, without really shaking them. Which more often than not seems to result in another good roll. Its very subtle, but I think its good ettiquite to shake the heck out of the dice.

Theres also a certain way you can roll a scatter dice, which increases the chance of a hit from 1/3 to 1/2. Though its never happened to me.

Cheers

Table = Good

Floor = Re-roll

Back in the pile of dice = Know which color you rolled or just re-roll it.

Seems my gaming group is fairly unique, in that if dropped dice happen when the guy is ready to roll, we just roll the rest. Consider it a slightly premature, unintentional roll :P

And as I said, we just call whether it counts or not when it goes off the table. Counting the ones on the floor normally happens when we're in a hurry to finish, or just can't be bothered rolling them again. We're a lazy bunch, but always play amongst friends (never play store games, and I only play against people I know to be really good sports when I go to the gaming club).

For cocked dice, we'll go with there or thereabouts. If there's one side OBVIOUSLY facing up, the result stands. If there's any question though, it gets rerolled.

One of the touchiest situations I've seen is with a guy who was a know dice dropper. If it was good, he kept it. If not, he rerolled it. People were reluctant to call him on it because he suffers from some sort of condition that marked by palsy. He has the shakes--it's hard to keep hold of the dice. But still, he was blatantly keeping some dropped dice but not others.

I still just reroll them. I suppose if it becomes an issue with a player, just agree beforehand, as you would anything else.

I make it very easy. use a cup, like in yatzee, and a little box. it prevents dropping of dice and makes sure thare are very few cocked dice.

Me and my group of friends say if it's dropped prematurely you re-roll, this includes if it doesn't 'roll' and just skids across the table. We also say if it's on a slant it gets rerolled.

It's never really been too big an issue for us because we're all friends and we don't take it too seriously. It can be gutting when you lose out on some huge flukey roll though hehe.

The rolling cup and box are a nice idea, if I could I would have a seperate table for rules stuff with a nice dice rolling trench and rulebook stands on! Unfrotunately I'm not rich :((

I make it very easy. use a cup, like in yatzee, and a little box. it prevents dropping of dice and makes sure thare are very few cocked dice.

Beleive it or not there are methods for rolling consistent 6s with dice cups, they are actually banned at UK Grand Tournaments!

At our club we usually accept the result. As long as you have a convention of never picking these dice up or always picking these dice up it makes no difference.
However, at my club, most of the people I play with will immediatley drop all their dice if they accidentally drop one, so I rarely encounter the problem.

Beleive it or not there are methods for rolling consistent 6s with dice cups, they are actually banned at UK Grand Tournaments!


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Really? I've never seen that in the GT tourney packs O.o
But then I don't use dice cups anyway. Not after the 120 rapid firing plasma rifles failed to kill 5 termies. I swear that dice cup hated me ¬.¬

One of the touchiest situations I've seen is with a guy who was a know dice dropper. If it was good, he kept it. If not, he rerolled it.

We had a player that had a habit of this, but with cocked dice. If the cocked dice was favorable, he wouldn't consider it cocked - if it was unfavorable, he'd always go to the ole' dice test (which is if you can put another dice on the uppermost side of the cocked dice without it spilling over, then it's a good roll). He was a known cheater so I never played him, but it got so bad once that his opponent told him that any dice touching anything other than the tabletop is to be re-rolled, even if it's just barely touching a piece of terrain or a model's base.

If it's multiple rolls, then I'll pick it up and redo it (I usually get the dice before saying what I'm doing) but if it's one die, meh I'll use it....

Immediately I drop a die I say something like "oops, come here you little...." or something equally esoteric! Our gaming club never counts a dropped dice as "rolled". Also, all dice must be absolutely flat on the table, and only rolls ending on the playing area itself count.

Dropped Dice is more of an annoyance than a "Hey you dropped that - hard luck, it counts 'cos it left your hand" kind of demand. I would expect someone to pick up the offending cuboid and re-roll it, regardless whether the second result was worse for me or not. At least that way everything is evened out.

E.

In my game store, the way most people play, an accidental drop is always picked up and re-rolled. To answer the original question, Yes, I would feel bad about saying "That counts!"

The only time I ever drop my dice is during FOF, which can get up to 31 shots. I always drop a couple.

Fortunately, I hold my hand low down to the table while I am still gathering my dice, so if they drop it is clear that it was not a roll.

I would feel very negatively about a person who dropped his dice and yelled "it counts" once, then "it doesn't count" later.
In fact, I'd sneak into his house and spray paint his models (if they were painted).:ninja:

Basically, I've always assumed that every dice that I accidentally drop is an accident, no matter what the result was (and I've lost a fair few rending hits off this, I can tell you that much :P) and I always ask my opponent whether they want to accept a result when a dice is on its side. I'd like to think our club has a healthy and happy relationship with our dice.

In fact, I'd sneak into his house and spray paint his models (if they were painted).:ninja:

Mental note: Dont game against LittleBlueMan! :O

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This happens to me all the time i don't use those small dice i use quite large ones and that can be a problem when i have to roll like 20 at a time so what ill do is if i drop them by accident ill tell my opponent that it was not an intentional roll and wether it be a good roll or a bad one i will re roll it if its k will my opponent which it usually is because people at my local GW store are really coo, with it because truthfully they do it alot to.

Since a lot of people seem to make a lot of drops when rolling I'd like to introduce my rolling technique to you all: roll in volleys. Never roll more than 10-12 dice at once. Have 31 shots, roll a group of 11, then another of ten, and one more of ten. It also helps speed games up because there are less dice to fumble over and it's easier to pick out passes and fails. It also lowers the amount of stuff you have to carry around with you.

When i drop dice on the table, i just "slap" it before it stops and pick them up, telling my opponent what i'm doing of course. I always re-roll if they hit the ground though.

I just let it roll; dropping a die (on the table) is no different than rolling a die unless you are doing something tricky.

i'd roll all dice together, and should a couple fall out of my hand i'd grab for them then and there... should a number come up (be it a 1 or a 6) i'd pick em up and roll em with the rest of the dice... no questions, no comments, just treat it like i dropped them,

Hey all. I'd like to raise a gaming etiquette subject..

Accidently dropping a dice (or 2) before you roll a handful.. To me its always been a touchy moment..
If the 'accidental' roll is a fail, you dont want to keep the failed roll, but you feel bad about saying it wasnt really the roll and picking it up again..
On the other hand, if it is a successful 'roll', you feel bad about saying 'that counts!!'

What do you guys do?

Cheers

Personally, I count drops as long as they stay on the table.

As to my opponents, I don't care either way- count 'em or pick 'em up, but please have the class to do the same thing every other time after that.

When I was younger I belonged to a church that forbade its members to gamble. My parents were easy going and so I could still play D&D and Warhammer(dice =gambling)
Strangely, 'Clue' was okay. What does this have to do with dropped dice? Nothing.
Just a little preamble.

I re-roll dropped dice. I trust myself and that's enough. I've let go of enough six's and killing blows to balance out the 1's. I re-roll cocked dice, but am forgiving with opponents if they want to keep theirs.
Floor=re-roll.

Back in the day, in one of my D&D groups, i had a friend who seemed to roll his saves, hits, whatever, before I called for him to do it. it became a joke with our group, how our buddy would roll up his hits and such days in advance and just have the best ones ready to report to me!
:)

Back in the day, in one of my D&D groups, i had a friend who seemed to roll his saves, hits, whatever, before I called for him to do it. it became a joke with our group, how our buddy would roll up his hits and such days in advance and just have the best ones ready to report to me!
:)
There was a guy I used to game with who would keep rolling (initiative, to hit, whatever it is) while the GM was talking, keep a beneficial result and then claim that that was his roll. ^_^ Silly people!

Well with drops if it's say 30 some odd shots and i drop two..i'll grab them before they stop spinning so there's no confusion as to if i'm waiting to see if they hit or not. If they slip i snatch them up ASAP.

If it's like 2 dice or 5 dice and 1 slips out..i just drop the rest along with it

as for nid/ork players who roll some 70 dice at a time...really..just don't bother picking those 2-3 up because you'll drop more...Those 2-3 won't matter that much

if its dropped, and bounces then id say its been rolled (unless it goes off the table)

I like to use a box to roll into, it encourages more of a throwing than a dropping action and stops dice being cocked....(ooh matron)

This is such an easy question. If you drop the dice, it doesn't count. Ever. (Unless it's a whole bunch of dice and instead of rolling them you drop them all randomly so they don't fall off the table).