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I've been colecting for three years but this is the first time I bundled an army together so rate it critically please ..........moooo .
bray shaman 79
beast herd 159
-8 ungors with shields
beast herd 179
-8 ungors with shields
-mark of tzeentch
bestigor herd 150
tuskgor chariot 85
4 warbanners 100
Overall it's not a bad concept for you army, but you've made some fundamental errors;Nice cheap character choices, but the Bray Shaman is a bit of a waste of points as it is. You either need to have more in the way of magic (ie. upgrade him to a level 2 wizard) or use him to carry a couple of dispel scrolls. Also, you've got his points wrong, A Bray Shaman with a braystaff costs 81pts.Originally Posted by moomoocowThe Gor to Ungor ratios are fine, but don't bother giving the ungors shields, it's a waste of points, and the gors should have two hand weapons (if they haven't already). Also, you cannot give a Mark to a beast herd, only a Bestigor herd can have a Mark (and only one Bestigor herd in the army can have a mark).Originally Posted by moomoocowThe chariot is okay, but they're not much use singly, better in pairs. I would lose the chariot and use the points to boost the numbers of the Bestigors. 10 Bestigors is going to be next to useless as a combat unit, units like that need at least 16 models to get the most out of their rank bonus.Originally Posted by moomoocowBefore automatically giving them great weapons, consider which army you're going to be fighting against. Sometimes additional hand weapons are better (when fighting elves, goblins or skaven for example). Also, the Bloodkine is a waste of points for only +1 attack, it's an indulgence you can't afford at 1000pts.Originally Posted by moomoocowWhat's this? :blink: You can't buy more than one War Banner! :huh: It's a magic item, and apart from power stones and dispel scrolls, you can never have more than one of each magic item in an army, so it appears you've got 100pts spare!Originally Posted by moomoocow
Last edited by Tzeentch Lord; October 13th, 2005 at 18:17. Reason: chuffin' smily didn't work...
"Peace, through superior firepower."
seen as your gonna have some points spare ( at least 75 as you can only have one war banner) i would personally recomend giving your wargor some magic items, I like the slaughterers blade, as it can help keep him alive, or possibly some armour, chaos armour and an enchanted shield work well together (2+ save I belevave in combat, though I have a nagging that says it could be 3+, but good either way). also I would boost your wizard to a level two, and give him a stone of power, and staff of darkoth slap him in you betigors, which I think you should bolster with the points from the chariot, like tzeench lord said, and you got a potential 20" chrge, very useful and I thank silentstorm for that last combo advice.
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lso I take the tzeentch mark was meant for the bestigors, if your not looking to be magically strong (I asume this as you didn't level up your shamen) then maybe slaanesh or Khorne might be better marks, both allow you units to ignoge panic tests, and also Khorne gives you a dispell bonus, so you could just equip your shamen with a couple of dispell scrolls, and you've got some magical defence. Personally I prefer undevided as IMO they fit BoC fluff better, but I can see the strategic advantages, rerolling panic tests is a good advantage, so just don't over look the undevided option,
*** MOD EDIT 2***
I posted a 1000pts list and asked for advice in the BoC section, I got some good advice there, have a look at what they said to, I change my force to parts of there advice, and I won my fight, the thread is Beats to re kill the undead
Please use the edit button in future, not triple post. - KU
Last edited by King Ulrik Flamebeard; September 7th, 2005 at 15:56.
Wargor+BSB+ Preyseeker+Hvy Arm+MOK=149
17 Khorngor+Cmnd+War Banner=279
4x5 Gor 5 Ungor+4 Mus+1 Foe-Render=260(60 each+1 Foe-Render)
2x 8 Gor 6 Ungor+ Cmnd=230(115 each)
2x Tuskgor Chariots=170(85 each)
4 Minotaurs+MOK+Gt Wpn+Bloodkine+Std Bearer=269
Chaos Giant+ Mutant Monstrosity=225
i think you can scrap the bray shaman for 79 extra points and the extra war banners would give you 154 extra points i would also redo the wagor as such
choas armor + enchanted shield 2+ save
sword of battle 4 attacks
Mark of Tzeentch
total= 190 points
since now you have 42 points left over exchange the chariot and you have 127 points left over so add a bray shaman that goes like this
bray shaman level 2
total= 125 points
thats my suggestion