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I have to ask, it's bugged me ever since I've looked at Beasts. The old book intrigued me, the whole thing looked epic. Also, the Shaggoth model is, in my opinion, one of THE GREATEST models GW have ever made, and now it is finecast I have even more motivation to get it. Except the fact we can no longer take them... What do you guys think of this?Why do the Warriors get the Dragon Ogres whilst we, the army that it fits in the best, get to reminisce of the time we did have them? What's your opinion?
Thats a good ?uestion NMP. I, for the life of me, can't figure it out myself. I mean, it looks like a Beastman, it behaves like a Beastman, it smells like a Beastman, it is a Beastman. Yet it is in the 'smooth skin's book (even though it got it's debut in our book). Quite befuddling. I'd say, the long answer has something to do with balancing and all that jazz, and the short answer is Mo' Money. I do agree with you on how awesome it looks though. I'm going to be getting one purely for Storm Of Magic and special scenario games.
" Are you gonna bark all day little doggy,
or are you gonna bite? "
I may do just that, it seems like its my only option. I'm also getting a Keeper of Secrets when it comes out in finecast, both of those running around in Storm of Magic will be hilarious! =)
If I remember rightly the rationale was that they're mountain dwelling creatures and thus are more likely to be in the Wastes than the forests of the old world, which is where the Beastmen traditionally hang out.
Whether or not that's what actually fueled the decision is anyone's guess...
To be honest with you, I think it was to make conceptual room for the big gribblies we have now. If you look at GW's recent releases, it's becoming increasingly apparent that they want every army to have their very own "big bad monster-thing", and the WoC one is the Shaggoth, if only because the fluff says it camps out in the same places the humans that eventually become Chaos Warriors do. To make up for that, we got a host of different big gribblies (they all suck mechanically, but that's neither here nor there, because the Shaggoth isn't very good either).
I have the big honkin' metal one. Luckily I have a WoC army so its not a total waste (though they arent that great in 8th anyway). But I agree, it makes more sense in the beastmen book.
Really, they can keep the Shaggoth... just give us back chaos marks and we will call it even
Rules for playing massive tabletop games with star wars miniatures!
The fluff has seriously moved away from that. I don't think we'll ever see Chaos Marks in Beastmen again. Heck, they even took the "of Chaos" bit off!
This is a tad off topic,
But we done a local tourniment were we puts names into a hat and we had to use the other persons army *were all really close and trust each other...or i woudln't of done it* was the best way for people to take tame army lists, and it was all for a laugh anyway...another reason to drink haha, But i got landed with beastmen...and my gosh..1 bad magic phase and it was over, But if they could get marks like WoC could...which is the army he got instead of his beastmen, i think that would balance alot of arguments about this army, Its a personal shame i lvoe the look of beastmen...but they just can't compete with top teir armys, unless you get alot of good magic phases,
You have to stack the odds in your favor to get good magic phases (fortunately, we can do that with the Herdstone and multiple casters), and you sure as hell can't bring a soft list if you're expecting to win anything. The book quite frankly isn't good enough for that. As a Beastmen player, one has to realize that, make peace with it, and stack all the things that make them strong (semi-elite infantry stats, cheap Great Weapons, lots of good chaff, powerful magic) into one list if you want to go toe-to-toe with the big boys. I've done it, so I know it's possible, but you don't get much in the way of build variety from that base. It's just the way it is.
Last edited by rothgar13; February 12th, 2012 at 18:42.
His list consited of a good 4-5 characters if i recall lvl 4 1 lvl 2 1 lvl1 1 beastlord & Wargor BSB, but me being a main Dwarf player...magic is overrated Hope the next beastmen book is better, Phil kelly & andy horne won't win a fame award for that one haha