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I cant decide weather to take as sahgoth champion or a beastman lord or a doom bull what are the advantges of each of these
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Well, I don't play Beasts myself, but, my buddy does. He swears by the Shaggoth. It is a CC monster. If you support it properly, it is almost invincible. Another advantage is his high Ld. The Doombull is basically a poormans Shaggoth. He also is quite good in CC, has a good Ld AND he allows you to take more minotaur units. The Beast Lord lets you use the ambush rule. His Ld is mediocre and he is OK in CC. I have faced the Beastlord and the Shaggoth and I would rather face a Beastlord.
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Well, the Shaggoth is a titanic melee monster, but is a bit light on the protection side (apart from a hefty dose of T5 Wounds). IT cannot take magic items, however, and the only way to get a Ward for the thing is to make it a Sorcerer with the Mark of Tzeentch.
The Doombull is powerful, but has even less protection than a Shaggoth (Best protection possible is Heavy Armour, Shield and a magic weapon that regenerates Wounds)
The Beastlord is your all-rounder basic Lord, who has decent stats and is ridiculously cheap to boot. A bargain, especially with the Mark of Tzeentch. (He's also the only Level 4 Tzeentch caster the Beastmen have, IIRC. And also the only one capable of taking the Staff of Change). In addition, he lets you benefit from the awesome Ambush rule. The Leadership is lowish, however.
All said, I'd go with a Beastlord.
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Unless you want to take Minotaurs as core choices then there is no real upside to the Doombull. I would rather have either the Shagoth, or the Lord.
If you need your Lord to be a CC god, then the Shagoth is the way to go, but the Lord can help your army in many other ways that may prove more vauable. Ambush, being on the Chariot, and strong mark abilities, along with a really cheap price make him my choice. There are other hard core CC units in the Beasts list that can help out there.