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KwiKwag

Preparing for the 2010 GT in Las Vegas

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by , February 25th, 2010 at 23:06 (316 Views)
So it tourney time again and looking at my last blog post I am of a different mind now than I was. I have found some new motivation and success in my lists but as the new codices come out - I am feel I am losing touch with the progress of the game!

Another weird item is that this new GT in Vegas is 2,000 points! I was perfectly happy at 1750 and even at 1850 but 2,000 points kind of stretches the list too much I do not feel a Wych Cult list really gets better from 1850 to 2,000 points. My current 1750 list looks like:

Archite, punisher, helm, drugs, field, plasma, rack and vitae
6 wyches, 2 Blasters, WW, Plasma, Succ, agoniser, pistol, Raider, lance, shield, fex
6 wyches, 2 Blasters, WW, Plasma, Succ, agoniser, pistol, Raider, lance, shield, fex
6 wyches, 2 Blasters, WW, Plasma, Succ, agoniser, pistol, Raider, lance, shield, fex
6 wyches, 2 Blasters, WW, Plasma, Succ, agoniser, pistol, Raider, lance, shield, fex
6 wyches, 2 Blasters, WW, Plasma, Succ, agoniser, pistol, Raider, lance, shield, fex
6 wyches, 2 Blasters, WW, Plasma, Succ, agoniser, pistol, Raider, lance, shield, fex
Ravager, 3-lances, Nightshields
Ravager, 3-lances, Nightshields
Ravager, 3-Disintegrators, Nightshields

The strength of this list is obvious, I have 6 scoring units and 10 contesting units - most opponents usually have 4 scoring units in an "all-comers" list and rarely 5 scoring units but that is when they see my 6 and adjust their lists to match me.

So this is my "core" list to expand from and at 1850 I sense that is where I am grasping for good choices that 100 points can bring me. Options like:

A fully tooled Dracite which is around 98 points or
A reaver jetbike squad for tank hunting for 95 points or
A min/max warrior squad or raider squad or
Just adding more wyches and wargear

So I am going to try to use that 100 points for adding Lelith and a retinue so just imagine having 7 wych squads (with one lead by Lelith and is non-scoring) setting across from you ready to go "flat out". On paper, she is looking like an unique distraction unit that can be can set up on the front line and be able to pick whatever drug I need to match the enemy - not bad flexibility and since I already have all 6 troop choices filled, her retinue is probably the most useful of the above options.

I am not so certain this is the path I am going to take getting to 2,000 points for the Vegas GT but there is a RTT for 1850 the week before the Vegas trip and I am going to do a hell a lot of play testing between now and then.

We will see.
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  1. Silver's Avatar
    Hey.
    Would Lelith not take place of your Archite?
    Agonizer, no wych dodge, no combat drug dispenser... As I remember, you've always advised against taking her. Why did your change your opinion?
    Updated March 4th, 2010 at 20:36 by Silver (typos)
  2. KwiKwag's Avatar
    Helloo!

    Sorry it took so long but I just now saw your post.

    The reason was trying to squeeze in as many wych squads (scoring or not) into a small point level like 1850. Sure, I do not like Lelith but in order to give a lord a retinue Lelith is drastically cheaper and her little bonus of choosing a drug isn't bad. At 2,000 I still won't take her as I like the totally flexible Archite a ton better - so anything less I actually like having 7 squads of wyches and just deal with lelith and her short comings.

    So I tried her out in a 1850 tournament and she actually survived all 3 games - not bad and somewhat productive. The problem I faced however was that the game lengths were only 2 hours long and although Lelith and the wyches were slowly winning her combats the game would end and I couldn't get the wyches to objectives or finish a kill point in time. It was quite frustrating and I honestly believe that wych cult might be better at even lower point levels with friendly games. Tournaments larger than 1750 and are timed are not exactly working in the Wych Cults favor and have decided not to use a Wych Cult for the 2000 point GT next month. I am going Coven and giving the little ladies a rest this time around.

    To get an idea of why or what for you can check out my post in the DE forum labelled, "Covens, the other, other Dark Meat.
  3. Silver's Avatar
    Hello.
    Sorry, I also seem to have problems with timely answering.
    I've read your thoughts about Coven with much interest. The idea is nice, but, frankly, I have too much on my hands now to try to convert more haemonculi and grotesques. =)
    Also, I mostly play with tournament-level lists in a non-tournament environment at the moment, so there is no problem with runing out of time.
    But the idea is surely interesting.