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Howdy all, ==Me== here.
I've got the itch to start a new army, but I'm not interested in investing a huge amount of money (I do have college to pay for after all). After playing Skaven, DE, and Daemons I feel I've had enough evil armies and I figure Bretonnians are about as good as it gets (on paper anyway, and peasant don't count ).
So, you fancily dressed kaniggits, what would be the cheapest viable 2k-2250 point army you can make for Bretonnians? I'm looking for anything from army deals, boxed sets to online retailers, alternative models, and conversions.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Try Fat Ogre Minis.
That's where I got some nifty knights of the realm.
The box set is a good deal and will give you some peasants along with the Knights that you really need.
Other than that, don't buy Grail Knights or Questing Knights. For Grail Knights, use Knights of the Realm and paint them differently. For Questing Knights, use any weapons that you have from your other armies to give them a mixture of great and hand weapons. I have a Questing Knight using a filed down Thunder Hammer, for instance.
For 2000 points, run Knight heavy, as they are high points per model, and run a bigger unit of Grail Knights (at nearly 40 points per model). Adding in extra Lords and Heroes also keeps the price down, and they can be converted from the Knights of the Realm box as well.
Finally, actual GW Grail Knights and Questing Knights are some of the most expensive costing models, as is the Trebuchet and Grail Reliquae, so you may want to stay away from them.
I hope this helps!
Thanks for the input so far.
Here's what I've come up with from 1 Battalion, 3 boxes of Knights, 1 box of Pegasus Knights and a Damsel
Lord with virtue of KB monsters and stuff like that (Grail vow or no?)
BSB with virtue of duty (do I try to keep him safe or go for killing?)
Damsel scroll caddy
9 Knights Errant w/ Errantry Banner
8 KotR w/ War Banner (General)
7 KotR w/ Conqueror's Tapestry (BSB+Damsel)
Grail Reliquae and Battle Pilgrims (I'll convert the Reliquae from the Grudge Pony from BfSP and the Battle Pilgrims from the M@A and Peasants)
4 Pegasus Knights
6 Grail Knights w/ Banner of Twilight
That should be around 2000 points and I think it's got plenty of hard hitting knight units, the super anvil of the reliquae, and the ever popular Pegasus Knights. 1 Scroll caddy may not seem like much, but I figure if I'm charging turn 2 I'll only need 1 turn's worth of defense before I'm smashing stuff in combat.
Does that look good? How should I equip ==My== BSB and General? And which magic banner should I run if any?
Many spells in the game bolster enemy unit's strength, attacks, weapon skill, even grant always strike first. Those spells cannot be easily dispelled using magic resistance. Plus even being in combat doesn't stop them from casting said spell (since they are combat boosts), most of the time.
I'm wary of the idea of the KB on large target virtue on the general. He'll probably spend a lot of time chasing down big stuff to go KB it, which minimizes his effectiveness with the 12" aura of generalness. Also, even though he looks like he's kitted out to kill whatever large target is bothering you on paper, he frequently bites off more than he can chew and will get clobbered. When this happens, you want it to be a spare paladin rather than the general.
If you're hellbent on doing this anyway, I suggest the Grail Vow (since most large targets cause fear or terror) and something to give the guy a little more survivability (like the Gromril Great Helm or the Regen Armor.) Depending on what kind of large targets you plan to hunt, the Mantle that gives you protection from Killing Blow might be a good investment also. It's the only way to fly if you're going to pick fights with things like the Bloodthirster.
They won't be casting spells if they've been run down or skewered on ==My== lances
I'm not really sure how I want to equip the general at this point, though thoughts on the monster slayer set up certainly helps. I think I'll stick with the Birth Sword, Knightly Virtue, and Armor of Agilulf. He's still got a 2+ and the blessing, and WS10 with either S6 or S5 should give him plenty of extra attacks. Or would I be better off with the Tress of Isoulde and KB lance for character hunting?
I would second that the Grail Vow is important for any big game hunters, being Immune to Psychology is crucial. I sometimes run a big game hunter like so:
with Horse, Shield, Lance
with Grail Vow
with Sword of Heroes, Gromril Great Helm (or Grail Shield), and Mantle of Damsel Elena
Then I put him in a group of Knight Errants with the Errantry Banner.
The key to this is you have to be careful. You're going to test on a 7, and that can force some charges. However, once you adjust to the sometimes tricky coordinated movement of multiple lances, you have an extremely hard hitting unit with a tricked out killer at its head.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the help guys, I posted a list in the appropriate section