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So I've been having some issues with the past few battles against my buddy who plays Lizardmen.
The Biggest issue I think was mostly just a lack of intel on the enemy up till more recently, but now with the new Book out is there anything that one should be particularly cautious of?
As a note, he has a good deal of Skinks and Saurus Warriors, and an old HQ model nit thats about all he has model wise right now (here at school)...
"The Lady Demands"
Me too I've been dual charging 3 ranks of 6 wide saurus spearmen with 2 knight lances and i'm loosing the combats! 2 Attacks from second rank is slighty too good for their points, orcs have to pay loads to get something similiar, savage orc big uns with spears cost way more and are probably not as good considering.
nah, saurus are pretty scary, but still no match for the lance formation. my lizardy problems mostly stem from the stegadon, and the ENGINE OF THE GODS. I capitalize becaues it is that much of a beating. I causes hits with no armour saves aloud and is undispelable. furthermore, the model has high strength and the capability to do 2d6 impact hits on the charge.
--Famous last words of Asmodean
not to mention their cold blooded(3 dice,discard the highest), and with a nearby slann (also is the bsb), they get to reroll failed break tests. The temple guard are really nasty, im not sure if they are stubborn already, but a cold blooded, stubborn lizard is a stone cold killer. . .
I played a legendary battle today at the chicago bunker, and i launched 3 lance formations (1KotR's and 1 Knights Errant and 1 questing knights) against his saurus calvary with muzi mundi (the slann on a stegadon), the unit became stubborn, and so, even killing 6 saurus calvary, he passed his Ld and i got stuck in combat. Also Lord Kroak is still a great character in the game, i mistcasted and rolled a 6, which is the one where the enemy gets to cast a free spell, well lord kroak unleashed that wicked spell, the one where all enemy units within 24" take 2d6 str4 wounds, many of those who took those tests were peasants. . .it was not a pretty sight. . .
"Kill a man and you are an assassin. Kill millions of men and you are a conqueror. Kill everyone and you are a god!"
Stegadon is my big OUCH! that comes from lizards. I managed to kill 2 in 1 game with 10 pegasus knights w/a paladin on royal pegasus with virtue of knightly temper. A big points sink, but it worked! (for 2 of his 8 which doesn't say much )
I must agree, tough to deal with em' these days, but i manage.
It is completely legal but very hard to do with them each being somewhere around 250 points (dont have my codex on me). In a 2000 pt game you can take 2 for rares, 4 for speacial and if you wanted to, have 4 skink charcters on them for a total of 10 possible stegadons, to bad they wouldent fit in a list.
I dont play Brets, but i do play lizardmen and my main opponents are brets.
i have never had a squad of saurus withstand a full KotR charge before, infact, the only time ive ever beaten my freinds knights is when i get the charge off, (which is usually with kroxigors), with the exeption of his 5 man questing knigts unit which just gets stuck in adn usually runs away.
His men at arms have actually done more damage than his knights due to the fact that they have more power after the charge
It shouldn't be bad at all for the Brett players. Just don't charge in to stubborn things. It's a basic rule of thumb that you should follow against all opponents when you're playing Bretts, as you really need to break people on the charge to win the game. You've got absurdly high movement and reasonable maneuverability with such a small frontage. Use these to your advantage and just stay away from things you won't outright kill (or break on the charge) so you don't wind up stuck in combat with something that'll never run.
Yes our knights need to break things on the charge, then overrun into another unit. There you would still be counting as a charge.
It is a beautiful thing when a plan comes together. It happens so rarilty for me that I can really enjoy it when it does.
I have yet to play a LM big monster heavy army. Okay I did but he was also magic heavy and my knights just burned up.
My best momemt was when a grail knight lance formation destroyed some jaggernauts and overran into the blood thirster. As they were having so much fun the rest of my army was being destroyed.