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Having just played a second game against vampires and getting smoked for a second time, ineed help. I decided that you people know what to do more then me (having played vamps a total of 3 times). what do you think is the perfect 1500 point list against these evil undead abomintions?More knights?More Peasents?Whats your opinion?Thanks
Do you have a rough idea of what he fielded against you ? If you do tell me and I'll help you : )
yar if you know what he will be bringing that would help
I think its essential that, since vamps build up their army slowly during game, you hit hard and fast.
- Grail knights and knight errant both small units and large lances.
- preferably supported by dispelscroll carriers and one or two heroes in unit.
- Be weary about the unit-options that are not 'fear immune' when charging, they could cripple you when failing their test, it will be when you need them most.
Warchief Diggah o da Bloodmoon Squiggahs
Go for a largish unit of knight errant with full command and war banner. Attach a bsb paladin with warbanner and virtue of duty. This should cut through most of their blocks happily at 1500pts level. Maybe make your general on a pegasus with virtue of condfidence/audacity and grail vow and go after the vampires.
Diggers advice is solid.
Im not exactly sure what he'll be bringing this time,but it should be close to what he did last time.
1 Vampire(not sure what kind, but it had advance deployment),amulet of gliistening,and i think sword of might
1 vampire hero on horse, gear unsure
1 corpse cart
1 unit of dire wolves(5x)
1 unit of Blood knights full command(5x)
2 units of black knights(5 each)
And i believe some zombies
His strategy seems flawless. Putting his dire wolves with in charge range of the KOTR with the blood knights right behind. When i chagre the big dogs he flees with the wolves and puts my knights right in front of the knights. then with hiis advance deployment vamp and move 9 do to the amulet he reeks havock behind me as the knights make their charge.
I hpoe this helps but like i said i cant be sure on his list but this is pretty close to the usual.
Why do you charge hounds first of all ? Take them out with your peasant bowmen ( make 20 with skirmish formation ).
Use 3 Pegasus Knights for fast mobility wherever you might need them.
use 2 small units of 5 kotr each ( no additions )
use 1 big unit of 11 errants with bsb and equip them to the tooth
some grail knights
1 damsel level 1 with 2 scrolls
maybe a paladin with grail vow armed for CHALLENGES and on a royal pegasus to take his vamp characters out for good
so virtue of confidence and maybe lance of artois and shield etc.
see if this is any better
I think dire wolves are imune to psychology, and may therefore not flee from charges...
Other than that, baiting is a very strong tactic. easiest way to counter it is to try ignore the bait and continue moving normally to his main blocks, instead of charging.
The bait will stand no chance if they charge you the following turn and the turn after that you'l be close enough to lock yourselfin the good units, behind the fleeing bait.
The tactic is not flawless when you see it coming
Warchief Diggah o da Bloodmoon Squiggahs
YES ! I forgot that ! UNDEAD CANNOT FLEE ! THEY CANT EVER BREAK FROM COMBAT EITHER ! LOL
He's winning through cheating hah
Tis true. All models in the Vampire Count army are subject to the "Undead" rule - Maybe you should go over this. Vampire Counts are a tough army for Bret's, but not impossible. The only units in that list worth worrying about are the Knights.... Blood Knights are unholy, Black Knights have the killing blow. I'd say brute force is the only way around them. Charge and lance them - Try Yeoman horsemen? They're fast cavalry. Then YOU could be the one fleeing and pulling his knights into charge traps.
Final note is to watch out for magic. Personally I'd never take more than one Damsel, these points could be best spent elsewhere, and even attempting to stand up to Vampire magic is a waste of time. Bring Knights (Errant I'd say - Fearless charge), hit him hard and hit him fast!
"Show 'em the gunline, Boss"