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I realize "The Grail Shield" argument isn't quite cleared up but just assuming it is for a moment, if you read Leoncour's abilities doesn't one of them seem to imply that Beaquis gets regeneration? I never considered it until just now and I've never really read any battle reports with him in it. Take the downside of our previous example and why such a cheap shield would effect the rider and the mount. It is because it actually requires a few things: One, that you have the grail vow. Two, that you not lose the blessing. There are other Bret items that give wardsaves that don't improve the blessing and thus wouldnt be lost if you lose the blessing (and likewise wouldnt be past down).
Back to Louen though, his improved blessing comes with a steep downside. He takes wounds without any hope of saving them under certain circumstances. Few to no other special characters have this clear of a "penalty". Finally, the fact that it doesnt explicitly say Bequis gets the regeneration is actually consistent with the argument as a whole. No other time does the blessing (and anything that alters it) say it also effects the mount. Simply put, if his blessing = A+B then Beaquis blessing = A + B
Last edited by Domstrae; April 20th, 2006 at 20:10.
I know squabbling over little things and interpruting rules like this seems agaisnt the spirits of the game but the people I play with despite their good intentions and creativity are highly competitive first and forgiving of the rules second. Its always in my best interest to know more than them regarding the rules and so this strict inturpretation of the rules is necesary. So I'd really love some feedback even if this seems like a completely overstressed unimportant issue because I have to fight busted ass tyrion and the ogre butcher =/
Last edited by Domstrae; April 20th, 2006 at 20:12.
Alright, I'll reply.
I haven't heard 'grail shield' arguement before. I'm asuming it is whether the mount gets the improved blessing? I'd say yes, because the blessing is passed on as normal.
For Louen, I read the line carefully.
In addition to the ward save he receives from the blessing, Leoncoeur has regeneration.
I can see how it could be read either way... But I think since it specifically says the ward is from the blessing, and in addition to that... Only he would get regen. Thats my interpretation of it anyway.
I feel jiped, my army book came with the pages of leon leoncur missing! I never found out his rules........ Oh well......... it does seem a little odd that they are the only pages missing though.........
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What I've always wondered is why doesn't a hippogryph have an armour save. The model for beaquis has barding and armour plates but no save. Hipps seem a lot weaker than other races special mounts. I want to see a Bretonnian Dragon.