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aren't bretts supposed to have the BEST KNIGHTS in the game? Then why don't they get the fullplate like the empire knights do???? +2 save my knights die too easy
please duck your head in a boiling potato stew and feed yourself to your dog.
Cripes sake your knights f***ing pwn, full plate would be the death of everyone else.
Take the time to look over all the fun little things your knights enjoy, wards magic resistance lance formation yadaa yadaa.
If u STILL complain, repeat step 1 with whatever avaible body part.
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Brets knights Pwn...just ask anyone whos been on the end of their charge...
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You seem to think having the "best knights" means no ones knights should have any an variation that resembles an advantage over ours. Thats like complaining that lizards are supposed to be the best magic users but all these other races get a maybe 1 better racial spell or 1 or two magical arcane items.
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Full plate probably in historical terms wouldn't really make you a better knight, infact it would probably make you worse, being as you can barely move in a knight armour let alone full plate. Besides the blessing gives you a ward save which if you did the maths is alot better at the end of the day aswell as the ward save part is unmodifiable. Also bretonnian knight all have advantages such as giving their Ld to peasants and such as possibly being imune to psychology aswell as the other virtues and just look at how powerful grail knights can be. Then to top it off you have the lance formation, however this formation isn't really as good as people make it out to be but often it still can be an advantage.
No, the lance formation really is as good as we all say it is. As long as its used properly like with anything in WHFB.
bald inquisitor, refrain from the colourful language. Treat other users with respect, everyone is new at some point.
To the original poster, have a look around at a few of the other posts in the Bret forum. Particularly the ones complaining Brets are overpowered, and have a look at the reasons given. You'll find that your knights aren't lacking at all.
It is very good if a lance charges into the right place/right time with full unit strength and good conditions. However comparitvely to a normal line unit there are alot more things that can go wrong to prevent that perfect charge as above or even to spoil that perfect charge when you get it or even after, and heavy cavalry can be quite fragile enough to certain things. Also remember that a lance can be comparitively expensive, if you want that perfect magic powerful charge, it certainly isn't the no brainer anymore.No, the lance formation really is as good as we all say it is. As long as its used properly like with anything in WHFB.
You are of course aware that
-The Ward save is taken AFTER armor saves rather than as an alternative.
- A 1+ save offers no additional advantage against anything without a save modifier (most of the units in the game).
- Empire armor is more a testiment to their industry and wealth rather than their "Knightly skill"
I still hate Twiglets!
Im pretty sure ward saves are instead of normal saves. not extra. (unless brets have a special rule, i dont know) can we get a third opinion here?Originally Posted by Twilight Dancer
S3 and lower is the only attacks that wont modify armour.. any character, gun powder range weapon, bolt thrower, unit with halberds, units charging with lances or spears..chariot impact hits.. etc etc.. will have more than S3.. i would say a good 40% of attakcs in WHFB are high enough to cause modifiers. so +1 save is an advantage.. but i totally agree they shouldnt have it.
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Ward saves are taken after armour saves for all armies, not just Brets. Invulnerable saves in 40k are instead of. Which makes them pretty good. You can see rules for that in the BRB under the section on saves.Originally Posted by DA_recruit