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Hi, for a couple years I have played 40k but only for a couple days, I have been loking forward to start my way with warhammer. Of all the races, I look upon Bretonians which truely look amazing at what they do.
Of all the races they seem to have the smallest miniature range which is to my liking since I hate having a zillion different types of models, and always wishing to have something different after purchasing what you desired in the past. Yet, these models and overal descriptions of Bretonies are ot my liking and I really want to hear some options about them from more experienced player.
Is this a good beginner army to play, is it a powerful army, is it challenging, is it costly, and mainly IS IT FUN???
Also, I really want some one to give a description of each unt in Bretonian miniature range, there arent that many to begin with. So I can finaly make my mi nd what models will become my very first purchase. I know its painful typing up a paragraph for each model, but who know...a rep point here and there?Thanks in advance guys
Good beginner army? Yes.Is this a good beginner army to play, is it a powerful army, is it challenging, is it costly, and mainly IS IT FUN???
Challenging? Not really.
Costly? Money or points? Yes in points, not ban in money.
Fun? Definitely can be.
All knight armies are very powerful yet rather boring, your tactics consist of charge forward. When mixed with peasants the army can be pretty good to play and quite interesting, though still with the best all round cavalry in the game.
As for unit by unit descriptions, well all the knight units do pretty much the same thing and are good except questing knights. They aren't really worth it in 7th ed.
Peasant archers are great as skirmishers, a nice cheap shooting unit. Pegasus knights are fantastic as a unit of fliers, they can march block, attack skirmishers, warmachine crew, lone mages, chariots and fast cavalry.
Would you recommend a cavalry based high elf army instead? I want lots of cavalry but at the same time not have it as the only thing available to me. Would high elf proove o be exciting?
A Bretonnian force can be incredibly balanced. You've got flying Pegasus knights, the trebuchet, men at arms, peasant bowmen. It doesn't need to be all cavalry.
Of course, cavalry will take up a good portion of your force as is the Bretonnian way.
On the painting and modelling side of things, you've pretty much got a blank canvas when it come to painting the knights. You can choose whichever colour scheme you like the best.
More to the gaming side, Brets are a very good army. One of the top three in the game IMO. There's not much that can stand up to a charge from the devastating grail knights, and even your basic KOTR can pack a helluva punch thanks to the mighty lance formation.
The Brets aren't famed for their magical offence, but have some magic items which means they can have a solid magic defence.
All in all the Bretonnians are a strong and characterful race which will not disappoint. But I could say that of all the races in the FB world
I did just write a long post but my computer just &*^@%$ it up. :cry:
Here it is again in shorter form.
Brets are very effective at all cav, after all the army was designed to allow it. I wouldn't recommend an all cav list though. It quickly gets boring as all you do is aim the knights at the enemy and charge, and many opponents will call it "cheesy". I would use a lot of peasants as well as a lot of cav. They are cheap in points and can do a good job, and in my opinion really add to the character and diversity of the army. You also mentioned High Elves (my army!). They can also do heavy cav lists quite well, but aren't as effective used in that way as Brets are. I would say by all means go for HE if you prefer their models or background over Brets, but otherwise Brets are the best choice. Remember you will spend a lot of time and cash on the army. If you love the models, you'll love the army too.
If you choose Brets a good first purchase would be some Knights of the Realm, as you must have at least one unit in any Bret army, and they form the basis of most lists. I would say either a KOTR box or the Batallion.
Thats definitely a possibility.. Though HE are being rereleased this christmas, so who knows what will happen to them. They are also a pretty difficult army to play, though a heavy cavalry army is the strongest type. They would provide good variety and do have excellent cavalry.Originally Posted by WraithGuardian
I think I finaly made a permanent desicion. I am going with the cavalry/magic heavy high elf list, and I wont wait for new models since I love the current onse. Thanks to everyone that helped me make up my mind, rep to all!!!
WraithGuardian, good choice. A combination of cavalry and magic in a HE army can indeed be powerful, I made a list and used it last week. Unfortunately, it suffered a minor defeat at the hands of a SOC orcs list, you need to be prepared to face bad magic phases occasionally. I hardly got any spells off and suffered 2 miscasts. Most forces on both sides were massacred.