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    RTT Army List: Alpha Legion 1500pts

    My Fellow Chaos Lords, Hear ME!
    I am entering a RTT that is happening before the cursed new codex irradicates all traces of the Alpha legion and we go back into hiding.
    Help me make a memorable impression on my oponents with a list, worthy of the name, ALPHA LEGION!

    Alpha Legion- 8th head
    HQ1
    Chaos Lord: Domiel the Cunning 152
    Daemonic gifts: D. aura,Darkblade,D.Speed,D.Strength,
    Wargear/Mark/Vet Skills:Infiltrate,B.Pistol,Frags,Mark Undivided,Furious Charge

    Forward Strike element: Alpha Red Squad
    Troops 1: (8xCSM)-188
    Chaos Space Marines
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:CCW + BP, 2x Meltaguns,Mark Undivided,Infiltrate
    Aspiring Champion
    Wargear/Mark/ V.Skills:Mark Undivided,P.Fist,Infiltrate,B.Pistol,D.Mutation,D.Visage


    Fire support element: Phi Red Squad
    Troops 2: (7xCSM) -148
    Chaos Space Marines
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:CCW + BP, 1x Plasmagun,Mark Undivided,H.Bolter
    Aspiring Champion
    Wargear/Mark/ V.Skills:Mark Undivided,P.Fist,B.Pistol

    Fire support elementigma Green Squad
    Troops 3: (7xCSM) 148
    Chaos Space Marines
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:CCW + BP, 1x Plasmagun,Mark Undivided,H.Bolter
    Aspiring Champion
    Wargear/Mark/ V.Skills:Mark Undivided,P.Fist,B.Pistol

    Assertion Control contingent: Lamda
    Fast attack:
    Chaos Space Marine Bikers x6 260
    5 CSM Bikers
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:MoCU,2x Meltaguns
    Aspiring Champion
    Wargear/Mark/ V.Skills,Power Weapon,Teleport homer,MoCU,D.Visage

    Suppression and Fire response Force
    Elite1(2xObliterators)
    Obliterator Cult 140

    Firebase element: Zeta
    Heavy Support1(8xCSM)
    Chaos Havocs 232
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:,Mark Undivided,4x Autocannons, Infiltrate,Tank Hunters

    Firebase element: Omega
    Heavy Support2(8xCSM)
    Chaos Havocs 232
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:,Mark Undivided,4x Autocannons, Infiltrate,Tank Hunters




    Model count: 48 Points %

    HQ 152: 10%
    Troops 484: 32%
    Elite 140: 9%
    Fast Attack 260: 17%
    Heavy support 464: 31%
    Total 1500

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    Hello Mr. Yak. Long time since you've posted an army list. I'll give it a go. Hopefully, I can get this typed out before IronAngel sweeps in and takes all the glory {goofy}.

    Overall, the build looks solid. I have some general concerns about the smallness of your spearhead, which is comprised of a single 8 marine unit.

    H.Q.: Looks good, except, where's resilience? I'd switch strength for it.

    Elites: Yeppers.

    Troops (broken down individually):

    8 man c.c. marine squad: Nothing wrong here.

    7 man support squad. I know that you and Karmoon are a fan of these types of units. I've tried them a few times, and they do tend to do fairly well; though, I still prefer the more specialized chaos squads, namely, the 6 man plasma gun infiltrating unit. In regards to your army, I would think that having a couple of these cheaper infiltrating plasma squads would free up some points that could in turn provide additional backing for the creation of another 8 man c.c. squad. Honestly, at the 1500 point marker, I think you would do better with more basic troops and less (if any) bikes.

    Bikes: Looks good, except that the a.c. could use daemonic strength. That said, as it stands, you have ample of tank busting options in your build. Again, it might help to increase your basic infantry at the expense of the heavier ones.

    Havocs: Never better.

    Hope this helps.
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    I feel odd going over yours, Cal's or Rabbit's lists.. but.. I'll do my best Senpai.

    Help me make a memorable impression on my oponents with a list, worthy of the name, ALPHA LEGION!
    Hydra Dominatus!

    Alpha Legion- 8th head
    HQ1
    Chaos Lord: Domiel the Cunning 152
    Daemonic gifts: D. aura,Darkblade,D.Speed,D.Strength,
    Wargear/Mark/Vet Skills:Infiltrate,B.Pistol,Frags,Mark Undivided,Furious Charge

    Forward Strike element: Alpha Red Squad
    Troops 1: (8xCSM)-188
    Chaos Space Marines
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:CCW + BP, 2x Meltaguns,Mark Undivided,Infiltrate
    Aspiring Champion
    Wargear/Mark/ V.Skills:Mark Undivided,P.Fist,Infiltrate,B.Pistol,D.Mutation,D.Visage
    Nothing to say really. This is how I'd take 'em.

    Fire support element: Phi Red Squad
    Troops 2: (7xCSM) -148
    Chaos Space Marines
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:CCW + BP, 1x Plasmagun,Mark Undivided,H.Bolter
    Aspiring Champion
    Wargear/Mark/ V.Skills:Mark Undivided,P.Fist,B.Pistol

    Fire support elementigma Green Squad
    Troops 3: (7xCSM) 148
    Chaos Space Marines
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:CCW + BP, 1x Plasmagun,Mark Undivided,H.Bolter
    Aspiring Champion
    Wargear/Mark/ V.Skills:Mark Undivided,P.Fist,B.Pistol
    I know you're fully aware of the 7 man versus 8 man. I appreciate that with points this is all that could be done.

    Assertion Control contingent: Lamda
    Fast attack:
    Chaos Space Marine Bikers x6 260
    5 CSM Bikers
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:MoCU,2x Meltaguns
    Aspiring Champion
    Wargear/Mark/ V.Skills,Power Weapon,Teleport homer,MoCU,D.Visage
    Not tempted to try and crowbar daemonic strength on? Instead of the homer?

    Suppression and Fire response Force
    Elite1(2xObliterators)
    Obliterator Cult 140



    Firebase element: Zeta
    Heavy Support1(8xCSM)
    Chaos Havocs 232
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:,Mark Undivided,4x Autocannons, Infiltrate,Tank Hunters

    Firebase element: Omega
    Heavy Support2(8xCSM)
    Chaos Havocs 232
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:,Mark Undivided,4x Autocannons, Infiltrate,Tank Hunters
    Pointless to comment on these three.

    Actually.. what are your thoughts on one autocannon squad and one missile launcher squad?

    Yeah.. the only thing that I'm personally not sure about is the bikers. You have a really healthy body count though.
    It's just.. bikes.. well.. I dunno.. I've never been able to use them or seen them been used well. Raptors on the other hand - as you well know, can split an enemy army in two when used correctly.

    Under normal circumstances, I'd have a lot to say about this list.. but it's kinda moot because I know you have the skill to use it and I know you know what you're doing.
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    Nice, I swept in behind Karmoon and he did not even know it :ninja: (that's me...the ninja)
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    Excellent, two of the guys I was hoping would comment. Hehe, its like I have my own war-council.

    So, my typical loadout at 1500 has always been:
    Lord, 2 8-man assaulters, 2 8-man shooters, and 2 autocannoners, and the oblits.

    The one and only loss this list has ever suffered has been at the hands at a zippy eldar player who moved units last turn to take the objective. Pretty much capitalizing on the alpha's only weakness... mobility. I figured I'd throw in a biker squad to see if that would balance me out a bit... I do know what you are saying about bikers.. it feels unstable.

    I KNOW for a fact I will be facing lots of smurfs, a LatD(slaaneshi), Daemonhunters/Iguard, TMC, Eldar footslot mech mix. though I guess if I thought of it closer, I may be best going back to ol' trusty.

    So, 2x 6-man plasmagunners would set me 232 pts back.
    if I drop the bikes, picking up a 2nd set of assaulters, and the third oblit.
    I could even fit in a pair of ACs with powerfists to protect those small squads(though they are not a very good attritive force, they WILL probably get assaulted eventually, and with TMCs present, this may be a viable option)
    hah! it puts me right back at my standard build(minus the 8-man shooter squads).


    As far as a ML squad/Ac squad. I HAVE thought long and hard on this, and it comes down to: for really hard targets, I already have a lot of meltas. (and that I don't have any MLs built and painted)

    Hmmm... for the fire support squads, how do you guys feel abou missile launcher plasmagun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by theyak View Post

    Hmmm... for the fire support squads, how do you guys feel abou missile launcher plasmagun?
    In an environment primarily dominated by MEQ's, it's not a bad idea. I like this option better than the heavy bolter, mainly due to the versatility of the missile launcher to deal with swarms and vehicles. This seems a little more synergistic with plasma gun's ability to deal with heavily armored infantry and light vehicles. If you end up using this configuration, be sure to post the results. You've got me wondering about it now.

    Side: Just curious, but I'd like to see your final army list, buddy.
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    Alright, Here's another list I was playing around with.
    It takes the HB/Plas squads out(hhmmm...) and throws in another havoc squad for pure evil's sake.
    and has a 6-man plasmagunner hate squad in there, along with my second Assaulters squad.
    My only concern is that my shooters are pretty much flapping in the breeze, if someone gets to my lines(very likely) there
    is nothing to really give them bite.
    With the HB/PLas squads I can feasably dogpile with them and kill off the intruders with overwhelming powerfist attacks.
    I'll post my OTHER alternate list with the HB/Plas in a bit for you guys to mull over.

    Alpha Legion- 8th head
    HQ1
    Chaos Lord: Domiel the Cunning 152
    Daemonic gifts: D. aura,Darkblade,D.Speed,D.Strength,D.Resiliance,
    Wargear/Mark/Vet Skills:Infiltrate,B.Pistol,Frags,Mark Undivided,Furious Charge,Spikey bits.

    Forward Strike element: Alpha Red Squad
    Troops 1: (8xCSM)-188
    Chaos Space Marines
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:CCW + BP, 2x Meltaguns,Mark Undivided,Infiltrate
    Aspiring Champion
    Wargear/Mark/ V.Skills:Mark Undivided,P.Fist,Infiltrate,B.Pistol,D.Mutation,D.Visage

    Troops 2: (8xCSM)-188
    Chaos Space Marines
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:CCW + BP, 2x Meltaguns,Mark Undivided,Infiltrate
    Aspiring Champion
    Wargear/Mark/ V.Skills:Mark Undivided,P.Fist,Infiltrate,B.Pistol,D.Mutation,D.Visage


    Fire support element: Phi Red Squad
    Troops 3: (6xCSM) -148
    Chaos Space Marines
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:CCW + BP, 2x Plasmagun,Mark Undivided,


    Suppression and Fire response Force
    Elite1(2xObliterators)
    Obliterator Cult 140

    Firebase element: Zeta
    Heavy Support1(8xCSM)
    Chaos Havocs 232
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:,Mark Undivided,4x Autocannons, Infiltrate,Tank Hunters

    Firebase element: Omega
    Heavy Support2(8xCSM)
    Chaos Havocs 232
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:,Mark Undivided,4x Autocannons, Infiltrate,Tank Hunters

    Heavy Support3(8xCSM)
    Chaos Havocs 232
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:,Mark Undivided,4x Missile launchers, Infiltrate,Tank Hunters
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    OK, now, here's my "standard" list, One which I have been playing for the last year and a half or so. Its strong, its just static.

    I HAVE been entertaining the thought of the ML havocs in place of one AC havocs.... I'm not sure.. Skimmers are a REALLY big concern for me since I have zero mobility.
    Any issues with 4x MLs instead of the ACs?(aside from the obvious)

    Alpha Legion- 8th head
    HQ1
    Chaos Lord: Domiel the Cunning 162
    Daemonic gifts: D. aura,Darkblade,D.Speed,D.Strength,D.Resiliance,
    Wargear/Mark/Vet Skills:Infiltrate,B.Pistol,Frags,Mark Undivided,Furious Charge

    Forward Strike element:
    Troops 1: (8xCSM)-196
    Chaos Space Marines
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:CCW + BP, 2x Meltaguns,Mark Undivided,Infiltrate,Frags
    Aspiring Champion
    Wargear/Mark/ V.Skills:Mark Undivided,P.Fist,Infiltrate,B.Pistol,D.Mutation,D.Visage

    Troops2: (8xCSM)-196
    Chaos Space Marines
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:CCW + BP, 2x Meltaguns,Mark Undivided,Infiltrate,Frags
    Aspiring Champion
    Wargear/Mark/ V.Skills:Mark Undivided,P.Fist,Infiltrate,B.Pistol,D.Mutation,D.Visage

    Fire support element:
    Troops 3: (8xCSM) -171
    Chaos Space Marines
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:CCW + BP, 1x Plasmagun,H.Bolter,Mark Undivided,
    Aspiring Champion
    Wargear/Mark/ V.Skills:Mark Undivided,P.Fist,Infiltrate,B.Pistol,

    Troops 4: (8xCSM) -171
    Chaos Space Marines
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:CCW + BP, 1x Plasmagun,H.Bolter,Mark Undivided,
    Aspiring Champion
    Wargear/Mark/ V.Skills:Mark Undivided,P.Fist,Infiltrate,B.Pistol,D.

    Suppression and Fire response Force
    Elite1(2xObliterators)
    Obliterator Cult 140

    Firebase element:
    Heavy Support1(8xCSM)
    Chaos Havocs 232
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:,Mark Undivided,4x Autocannons, Infiltrate,Tank Hunters
    Heavy Support2(8xCSM)
    Chaos Havocs 232
    Mark/V.Skills/Wargear:,Mark Undivided,4x Autocannons, Infiltrate,Tank Hunters
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    Yeah.. the standard list is virtually a work of art really.

    No comments.

    Recently, I've been trying two cheap lieutenants, 3 oblits and raptors.

    I must admit, I've been pleased and the variation keeps it fun. Plus infiltrating raptors = evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karmoon View Post
    Yeah.. the standard list is virtually a work of art really.

    No comments.

    Recently, I've been trying two cheap lieutenants, 3 oblits and raptors.

    I must admit, I've been pleased and the variation keeps it fun. Plus infiltrating raptors = evil.
    And, honestly that was my original intention with the first list... something.. different.
    BUT, I see what you are saying though, my standard list is tried and true, and since it will be the last time my Alphas will see action in a competative setting, I'll go give them hell with it.

    Still, if anyone has any feedback and comments keep em coming!
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