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so far I have all of these models.
Chaos sorc. lord in term armor, MoT Waprtime and doombolt
Daemon prince MoK with wings
5 terminators, MoK 2 chain fists, heavy flamer
11 CSM champ w PF Melta MoCG
11 CSM champ w PF Flamer MoS
8 Zerkers Champ w PW Rhino w TL bolter
3 Bikers Champ w PW 2 Melta's MoT
Predator Laz cannon and bolter sponsons
Defiler standard set up
Defiler 2 x CC
My point total is just under 1700. I almost went with fabius bile, using the Termie sorc as an Asp champ. I love Biles fluff, but just seems a waste. I am still building an army with a bile influence to it.
I am thinking about getting a box of Plague marines, and maybe a box 1K sons. I also like the idea of 5 more termies with a LR dedicated to them.
Thanks for lookin, and please throw some advice my way :-)
Last edited by Juukbawx; November 3rd, 2007 at 15:49.
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Looks pretty good so far. You should replace the las turret on the predator and replace it with the autocannon. Then make the defilers both the same so they have some sinergy together. Other than that just a more marines and you'll be set for a great army.
If you like Fabius Bile that much check out my army list with Fabius Bile in it.
Like Soul Reap say your list look good so far.
I would lose the single rhino or take 2 more for your CSM squads. The point is to go fully mechanised or to go with an infantry on foot.
Your troops lack in special weapons, gear up your CSM squads with at least 2 meltaguns or 2 plasma guns each, they help a lot.
Another Obliterator will help too, but since they are an Heavy Support choice you won't be able to take 2 Defilers, 1 Predator and Obliterators in the same list. The 2 Obliterators could replace the Predator, but the way you equip your Pred can dish out a lot of anti-infantry fire power and still be able to bust most enemy tanks, I would keep it and try to protect it by hiding it in the first turn.
The Plague Marines and the Noise Marines you plan to buy would make an excellent addition to this list.
Fabius Bile, sadly, is not worth your time or the points it cost, but try him before passing a judgment on him, he's a great model to have in your armoury and in small friendly games he's fun to use.
Thyr's right you already have 3 vehicles so why not buy a couple rhinos for those squads and then more rhinos once you get the Thousand sons and plague marines. I'd also get some small packs of the chaos space marines, for those extra special weapons members.
Also on the predator, I misread as an all out lascannon pred. The way you've got it is fine if you like the mobility.
Finally about the obliterator, you should get rid of it in the 2000 point list in favor of the pred. This'll also save points in getting the rhinos.
Sorry didn't have much time to respond on my last post.
Wow, some great advice yall, thanks.
First off on the defilers, yeah, I pooched the first one and glued him up with the reaper and flamer, might see if I can pop the reaper off and throw a CC arm on him. I got smart on the second and magnetized the arms. I think the flamer works for CC defilers well.
so at what point game can I add a heavy choice? maybe Apoc only? I might just drop the pred for Oblits when I get 3. The pred is too easy to lose early on, and deepstriking the Oblits in later rounds into the thick stuff seems better.
I have been debating on making one of the CSM squads into a chosen squad, eliminating the need for a rhino there.
I'm also fighting the urge to Get a landraider for the Zerkers, its alot of points, and I would have to load them in early, since they cannot have it dedicated.
On GW's store site I found some Iron warrior melta's for $2 a piece, ordering 3 of those, one more for my bikes, and 2 for the squads. Also very tempted by the plague marines. I think I will grab one box of them with a rhino, and grab another set in a week or two. they would help balance the army out with a melta and a flamer in each group. any reason I should not throw some regular marines in there to make an even ten plaguers in each rhino? you know, mix the bitz around some, make them look similair? and wait, they don't come with plasma guns?
ok thanks for the help, and keep helping, great ideas
I been toolin around with my list, kinda reorganised it, and it came out waaay too many points I think. Gonna list the points by FoC instead of unit, hope thats ok.
HQ's 440 pnts
Daemon Prince Mok Wings
Chaos Sorcerer Terminator MoTz warp time, bolt of change Personal Icon
Greater Daemon of Slaanesh (old model, all I got right now)
Elite's 745 pnts
5 Termies MoTz 2x chain fists, Combi Melta, Reaper or H Flamer (magnets rock)
(Gonna deepstrike these guys on my sorcerer)
5 Termies MoK 2 Champs with dual lightning claws, 3 with Chain fists, H. Flamer, combi- melta and combi-flamer
Dedicated Land Raider
Troops 1008 pnts
12 CSM Champ w/PF MoCG Melta and Flamer
11 CSM Champ w/PF MoS Pl. Gun and Lascannon
8 Zerkers Champ w/PW Rhino w/TL Bolter
10 Plague Marines Champ w/PW Melta and Flamer
Fast ~150 pnts
3 Bikers Champ w/PW MoS 2 Meltas
Heavy 435 Pnts
2 Defilers 1 with 2xCC other is Reaper/Flamer
Predator Lascannon with HB sponsons.
I realize that alot of Icons, Marks and Champs can be dropped for points, along with the Heavy weapons on the CSM's. The total points is about 2800, and has 60 models on the table.
Basically I got 500 points from a Land Raider with a sweet CC Terminator force. I have not made that purchase yet, but I am very tempted. 2 Term Champs with dual LC's and mark of Khorne seems awesome! and with 2 defilers, the pred and the rhino, not to mention the Prince, I don't see the LR being the main target, so I think this unit would have a very good chance to see combat in most games.
I could drop this list to 2500 pnts by giving the LR to the first Termie squad, not buying the second, and stickin the Sorc with the 11 CSM squad. Greater Daemon could stay or leave, and I could change around the Sorc alot, I kinda maxed out everything in the list for this. The big question is...do I shell out $90 for 3 Rhinos? (2 CSM squads and the Plague marines) or do I grab 5 more termies and and a LR. Jeez, 3 rhino's, have to buy another bag for transporting...lol
I guess I am basically looking for feedback on the LR/Termie part of the list, is it overkill for the points?
Last edited by Juukbawx; November 5th, 2007 at 16:01.