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    Undivided 1200 points Touney list

    Hey Im seriously thinking of going to a 1200 point tourney.
    Its supposed to be fluffy to the point where if 3 out of your first 5 opponents vote your army as cheese you can loose battle points.

    Im not complaining about the format just letting you know thats its unashameably at the opposite end of the spectrum to a no comp tourney.

    Anyhow here is the list i am thinking of using.

    DP, Wings, Doombolt, Personal Icon

    5 Terminators, 4 Combi-Plasma

    8 CSM, AC with PF and Combi-Flamer, 1 Melta Gun, IoCG, Rhino
    8 CSM, AC with PF and Combi-Flamer, 1 Melta Gun, IoCG, Rhino
    8 Lesser Daemons

    1 Preditor, TLLC and HB sides
    7 Havocs, 2ML, 2 AC, IoCG

    C&C welcome but other points to note:
    must be at least 500pts in troops
    must have more troop models than all other slots combined (HQ, Elites, Fast Attack and Heavy Support).
    Cant have more than 3 AV11 and greater vehicles (one dedicated transport is not counted).

    Last edited by null_sheen; November 15th, 2007 at 12:55.

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    Hmm, you have some very interesting parameters, sounds like some players in your area have some serious powergaming issues. Anywayz....

    -Keep in mind that daemons are not troops, just guesstimating I think you still have over 500 points in Troops, but just a heads up.

    -Daemon Prince looks good, but I would drop the Icon and see if you can get some nice goodies like Warptime and Mark of Tzeentch, I'd almost take Warptime over Doombolt myself...

    -Terminators look good as well, just consider throwing in a Chainfist in case something bad happens (Like a dreadnought charge). I would put IoCG on these guys, nothing more sad than Chaos Terminators running away (And yes, it has happened to me)

    -For your CSM, I'd reccomend switching the combi-flamer for another Meltagun, otherwise they look nice.

    -If your predator is for tank popping I'd strongly reccommend using an Autocannon/Lascannon Combo, much better for use against armor.

    -Havocs look fine, if you find you need more AT power, convert the Autocannons to Missile Launchers.

    Hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotspike18 View Post
    Hmm, you have some very interesting parameters, sounds like some players in your area have some serious powergaming issues. Anywayz....
    Thanks Hotspike,
    Well its the biggest 40k tourney in Australia (averages 150 players) and it is advertised and has a reputation of being a fluff tourney. We do have no comp tourneys as well and normal comp tourneys, its just this one is.....different

    -Keep in mind that daemons are not troops, just guesstimating I think you still have over 500 points in Troops, but just a heads up.
    Thanks ill check that with the TO as im just under.

    Daemon Prince looks good, but I would drop the Icon and see if you can get some nice goodies like Warptime and Mark of Tzeentch, I'd almost take Warptime over Doombolt myself...
    Agrred but you are talking about another 45 points to add in the mark and warptime where would they come from?

    -Terminators look good as well, just consider throwing in a Chainfist in case something bad happens (Like a dreadnought charge). I would put IoCG on these guys, nothing more sad than Chaos Terminators running away (And yes, it has happened to me)
    Humm did not think of this.....

    For your CSM, I'd reccomend switching the combi-flamer for another Meltagun, otherwise they look nice.
    need 10 men for a second melta....

    If your predator is for tank popping I'd strongly recommend using an Autocannon/Lascannon Combo, much better for use against armor.
    However in my opinion not as mobile or as versatile. for only 5 points more i get both.

    Havocs look fine, if you find you need more AT power, convert the Autocannons to Missile Launchers.
    Have been thinking of having 6 Havocs with 1 LC and 2 ML, using the spare 20 points for a chainfist and a heavy flamer for the terminators.

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    Ok, these are interesting restrictions. Anyway, here's what I might do:

    DP, Wings, Warptime, Icon of Tzeentch- 175 pts
    - Termis can plop down by the Icon of Tzeentch, cannot have a personal icon.

    5 Terminators, 4 Combi-Plasma - 170pts
    - Looks good.

    10 CSM, AC with PF, 2 Melta Gun, IoCG, Rhino - 245 pts
    10 CSM, AC with PF, 2 Plasma Guns, IoCG, Rhino - 255 pts
    - 500 exactly with mobility and shootyness!

    1 Predator, TLLC and HB sides - 135pts
    - Your note on the Pred is good, personally I like this build too.

    8 Havocs, 4ML or 4AC, IoCG - 210 pts
    - pick one or the other, I'd go with ML in your list

    1190 pts total - no clue what to do with the extra points, combi-weapon on a champ maybe? I'll leave that one to you

    Should provide a good firebase and good mobility. The Termis and DP will be running around causing havoc while your Pred takes out armor and your Havocs do both (another good reason for the ML's) Not too cheesey with your points spread out nicely.

    Good luck!

    C&C welcome but other points to note:
    must be at least 500pts in troops
    must have more troop models than all other slots combined (HQ, Elites, Fast Attack and Heavy Support).
    Cant have more than 3 AV11 and greater vehicles (one dedicated transport is not counted).

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    Farnola had a good take on the list though to be honest I do not like that particular predator setup either. No matter what you shoot at you are basically wasting one weapons potential. Shooting at armor the heavy bolters are almost always wasted and shooting at troops the autocannon is usually better.

    DP, Wings, Warptime, Icon of Tzeentch- 175 pts
    - Termis can plop down by the Icon of Tzeentch, cannot have a personal icon.
    DPs cannot have icons at all. tzeentch or otherwise, they have marks...

    10 CSM, AC with PF, 2 Melta Gun, IoCG, Rhino - 245 pts
    10 CSM, AC with PF, 2 Plasma Guns, IoCG, Rhino - 255 pts
    - 500 exactly with mobility and shootyness!
    both of these squads should be 10 pts more expensive than they are listed here.

    8 Havocs, 4ML or 4AC, IoCG - 210 pts
    - pick one or the other, I'd go with ML in your list
    I always run MLs on havocs unless I am running more than one squad of them. IMO you would be better served running more armor than havocs though. At the moment your armor is a little bit thin for my tastes.
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    Well after reading some suggestions i have come up with the following

    DP, Wings, Warptime, MoT

    5 Terminators, 4 Combi-Plasma, 1 Heavy Flamer and PF, IoT

    10 CSM, AC with PF, 2 Plasma Gun, IoCG, Rhino
    10 CSM, AC with PF, 2 Melta Gun, IoCG, Rhino

    1 Preditor, TLLC and HB sides
    1 Obliterator
    1 Obliterator

    Im a little worried about hoards with this list.

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    My bad about the Icon, I meant mark. Must have calculated the troops w/o the icon then, sorry.

    If you are more worried about hordes than armor, use a Dakka pred. That's Autocannon, HB sponsons, and Havoc launcher. 7 shots on the move that'll mow down a lot of horde type armies.

    Your termis can function as anti-horde too, just have to be tactically smart. I think you'll be ok.

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    Played a test game against a mate last night with my original list. His list was something like this:

    Chaplin (Jumpack and some other goodies)
    3 5 man tac squads with Missile Launcher and Plasma Gun
    2 5 man tac squads with Heavy Bolter and Plasma Gun
    2 Land Speeders
    10 man Assault Squad with 2 Plasma Pistols and a champ with a PF.

    Played Gamma Recon and won in a massacre!!! :party2:

    He only had 1 5 Man Tac squad left standing and not broken at the end of the game.

    I had 1 full CSM Squad including rhino (In his deployment zone)
    8 Lesser Daemons (In his deployment zone)
    Daemon Prince (2 wounds left) (In his deployment zone)
    1 Terminator
    1 Predator

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