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Below is an army list I've just written up, since I've been having lots of fun with my plague marines in my mixed list, so I thought I'd go all-out Papa Nurgle and see how well it works. C&C welcome.
Chaos Sorcerer (135 pts)
Mark of Nurgle
9 Plague Marines (277 pts)
Two Plasma Guns
8 Plague Marines (254 pts)
Two Plasma Guns
Defiler (150 pts)
Battle Cannon, Two Extra CC arms
Predator (100 pts)
with HB sponsoons
Total: 996 pts
Last edited by Ilkar; January 14th, 2008 at 17:29.
Looks like fun!
It seems a bit light on the anti-tank. I'd suggest replacing the 2x plasma in one of your plague marine squads to 2x melta, or using a demon prince with flight instead of the sorc to address that issue.
Also, the battle cannon really is the best weapon the defiler has going for it. Since you can only fire one or the other and ordinance also has better synergy with the defiler's relatively low Ballistic Skill, I'd suggest a Defiler Close Combat Weapon in place of the Reaper AutoCannon to make it an even more effective counter-charger in case it needs to help un-stick your plague marines from CC.
Heh, I always seem to go with a lack of anti-tank. Maybe its just me, but I always take less than you lot tell me to and try and get away with it. Personally, I look at my list and see a couple of powerfists, four plasma (rapidfire SX?), a combi-melta, a reaper autocannon, and the defiler and think that should be enough for light tanks I may be expecting in 1k points? I mean I'm not fighting 'liths or land raiders yet am I? I chose not to use a prince, because In my experience, he gets shot at by everything that can't hurt my tanks in the first two turns- i.e. nearly everything, and promptly dies. My sorcerer would join a pm squad and hence be more survivable. Hey, I might still switch a plasma or two if I get my hands on the models.
You're right about the defiler though, I'll give that the old switcharoo. Can't say no to another monstrous creature attack really, can I?
and you could give the second rhino a combi melta too somehow if you can spare the points. that would be sweet.
Let the galaxy burn!
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Your need for anti-tank varies considerably based upon your play environment. If all you ever face at the 1k level are light tanks, then you're probably fine. Plasma can do a good job against light armor. If the people you play tend to field landraiders or monoliths at that point level (which, while risky, can actually be fairly effective as many 1k lists just aren't equipped to deal with AV14) then you might be a little more hard-pressed to pop them without some trusty meltas.
If you need more Melta-convincing that has nothing to do with tankbusting, I also like meltas over plasmas 'cause they're cheaper, you can assault with 'em, they never kill your marines, and they instakill T4s.
Both me and my friends have a roughly, unspoken, anti-cheese policy whereby taking a monolith in that many points is generally classed as taking the Michael. Sure, you can do it, but it sure isn't fluffy. In the same vein, If I have to fight three hammerheads/ fire prisims in that many points, it's clearly not a balanced list. If you want to play like that, I'll jus change my list the game after to be full of havocs and oblits, see how you like it.
I'd love to get another combi-melta on the second rhino, but if you'd like to suggest where I'd get the points from? I'd feel taking anything else off for the combi-melta would make the list less effective.
Plague Maries excell at short-ranged firefights. I don't force them into assaults unless I think I'll benefit greatly, since the blight grenades and high T help with deterring being charged myself. I usually drive my rhino 12" forward, drop these guys out, and watch them double-tap anything that tries to kill them. The rhino tends to help screen them from anything particularly dangerous. As for your other points; PM die even more rarely from overheating with feel no pain on top of the normal save, and instant-killing T4 troops is even more rarely useful.
Last edited by Ilkar; June 18th, 2008 at 15:36.