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    1750 points Black Legion.

    Hello.

    This is my first post here at Librarium Online, though I am acquainted with Warhammer 40k rather extensively already. I'm most active over on 40k online but since they're down for the moment, I thought I would broaden my horizon and join the crew on this site as well. ;Y

    So anyway, here is a list I am tinkering with. I have a army list-thread running over on 40k online which I unfortunately cannot reach for the time being and I have some ideas and thoughts that I wanted to post, so I'll plague you folks with them instead.

    Here is the original list:

    HQ

    Daemon Prince
    -wings
    -mark of Slaanesh
    -lash of submission
    155 points.

    Daemon Prince
    -wings
    130 points.

    ELITES

    6 Chaos Terminators
    -icon of chaos glory
    -chainfist/heavy flamer
    -5 combi-weapons (most likely 4 plasmas and 1 melta)
    235 points.

    TROOPS

    10 Chaos Marines
    -icon of chaos glory
    -aspiring champion with power fist
    -2 flamers
    -rhino transport
    245 points.

    10 Chaos Marines
    -icon of chaos glory
    -aspiring champion with power fist
    -2 flamers
    -rhino transport
    245 points.

    8 Plague Marines
    -aspiring champion with power fist and personal icon
    -2 meltaguns
    249 points.

    HEAVY SUPPORT

    8 Chaos Havocs
    -icon of chaos glory
    -4 missile launchers
    210 points.

    Chaos Predator
    -turret mounted twin-linked lascannon
    -heavy bolter sponsons
    135 points.

    Chaos Vindicator
    -daemonic possession
    145 points.

    Totalling 1749/1750 points.

    Now, I have been thinking about making some changes to the list, hear them out:

    +switch the "naked" Daemon Prince for a Chaos Dreadnought with a close combat weapon/heavy flamer and a missile launcher and extra armour.

    +switch the Plague Marines for a squad of 5 Chaos Bikers with an icon of Khorne, 2 meltaguns and an aspiring champion with a power fist.

    +switch the Chaos Havocs for a group of 3 Obliterators.

    -drop the icon of chaos glory from the Chaos Terminators, necessary for fitting in the other changes.

    By doing all of these switches, I will land in at 1750 points, on the mark.

    I think that these changes would give me more mobility (except with the loss of the winged Daemon Prince of course) and give me some more unit variety in the force. The Chaos Bikers are superb delivery boys for deep striking Terminators and Obliterators as well.

    Thank you for any input!

    Last edited by Mwab; February 19th, 2008 at 09:49.

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    1st HQ Good. Second HQ either upgrade or drop.

    Terminators: Smashing and this is the combiweapon loadout I would choose.

    CSM Squads: Swap these for melta guns

    Plague marines. Foot slogging meltaguns won't do too well. Get a transport and/or considder plasmaguns as the FNP saves you from overheats too. Definatly don't replace them for bikes.

    Havocs: Agree that obliterators may be preferable and certainly (a little) more manouverable.

    Pred: I prefer the AC 2LC version but still ok. Awaiting 5th edition move & fire vehicle rules to make a better decision.

    Vindicator: Good.
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    Looks pretty good. I would drop the cheaper daemon prince to get extra armour on the rhinos, and maybe a rhino for the plague marines.
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    All right, thank you both for your advice. Through some swift calculating I could come up with this list configuration and I am pretty happy with it on paper.

    -drop the lower Daemon Prince.
    -drop the icon on the Terminators.

    +increase the Plague Marines' numbers to 10 and give them a Chaos Rhino with extra armour.
    +add extra armour to the regular Marine squads Rhinos'.

    Ending at 1750 points. Yum.

    So, how does these alterations look to be?

    Thank you.

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    You could always swap the naked prince for a greater daemon 30pts cheaper and well worth the points
    Change is good

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    Keeper of secrets. Now you'r talking! ;Y
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    All righty, here is a try at incorporating a Summoned Greater Daemon into the list.

    -drop the Plague Marines.
    -drop the icon on the Terminators.
    -drop the lower Daemon Prince.

    +add the Summoned Greater Daemon
    +add a squad of 10 Chosen, icon of chaos glory, 2 champions (1 powerfist, the other naked) and 4 meltaguns.

    Works out at 1750 as well.
    Any comments? ;Y

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    The new edit looks to me a well balanced army, I like the fact you haven't included too many cult troops which suits black legion well in my mind. Would have to agree with Madcat on the plasma guns on the pmarines, you do have plasma from your termi's but you can only fire them once and the fnp and T5 gives the pmarines great survivability from overheat. They still have the powerfist to deal with anything armoured should they run across it. You could take away the extra armour from their rhino to make up the points cost.

    Also wondering how you are going to get your termi's into the action, noting the heavy flamer Im thinking you want them in nice and close.

    Spin'

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    Uh, Spindle, I think you're a step behind or two in the continous editing of the list. The one at the top was the starting list, the post directly above you is the newest edit.

    Planning on deep striking the Terminators by the way, if I bring them down within 6'' of an icon (be it a unit icon or a personal one) they will not scatter!

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