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    Thousand Sons 1750

    Hey guys, not really sure what to look for in an effective Tzeentch army. I want this list to be tournament effective. Any help would be great.

    HQ

    Daemon Prince
    Wings
    Warp Time
    = 155 points

    ELITES

    Terminator Squad (4)
    4x Combi Plasma
    1x Chain Fist
    = 155 points

    Terminator Squad (4)
    4x Combi Plasma
    1x Chain Fist
    = 155 points

    TROOPS

    Thousand Sons (9)
    Sorcerer with Doombolt, Personal Icon
    Rhino
    = 294

    Thousand Sons (9)
    Sorcerer with Doombolt, Personal Icon
    Rhino
    = 294

    Thousand Sons (9)
    Sorcerer with Doombolt, Personal Icon
    Rhino
    = 294

    HEAVY SUPPORT

    Predator
    Autocannon
    Lascannon Sponsons
    = 130 points

    Predator
    Autocannon
    Lascannon Sponsons
    = 130 points

    Predator
    Autocannon
    Lascannon Sponsons
    = 130 points

    TOTAL = 1737
    TOTAL MODELS = 42 (including Tanks)

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    sup thought id throw in my suggestions
    I quite like the list but theres a few suggestions i have to just keep in mind.
    HQ

    Daemon Prince

    Wings
    Warp Time
    = 155 points
    i have found chaos sorcerer with MOT,steed,warp time and wind of chaos to be very effective but a prince is nice and cheap. all depends how you personally like to use your hq.
    ELITES

    Terminator Squad (4)
    4x Combi Plasma
    1x Chain Fist
    = 155 points
    maybe give one squad 4 combi meltas, help out with tank busting and to just give you those extra options would be nice.
    Terminator Squad (4)
    4x Combi Plasma
    1x Chain Fist
    = 155 points

    TROOPS

    Thousand Sons (9)
    Sorcerer with Doombolt, Personal Icon
    Rhino
    = 294

    Thousand Sons (9)
    Sorcerer with Doombolt, Personal Icon
    Rhino
    = 294

    Thousand Sons (9)
    Sorcerer with Doombolt, Personal Icon
    Rhino
    = 294

    HEAVY SUPPORT

    Predator
    Autocannon
    Lascannon Sponsons
    = 130 points
    3 predators seems pretty sweet but maybe a bit too much IMO i would like 2 defilers with ccw, and 1 predator, helps out against everything really, defiler is very versatile as it can kill hordes, meq, and not bad in assault just a intimidation factor also would help for your rhinos survivability alot. 1 pred would be enough IMO. if you did that would be almost mandatory to change 1 termie squad to have meltas.
    Predator
    Autocannon
    Lascannon Sponsons
    = 130 points

    Predator
    Autocannon
    Lascannon Sponsons
    = 130 points

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    hi

    Nice list mate8Y. but a few suggetions,

    Daemon Prince Wings Warp Time

    Nice choice, cheap and effective.

    Terminator Squad (4) 1x Chain Fist 4x Combi Plasma
    Terminator Squad (4) 1x Chain Fist 4x Combi Plasma


    Nice choices, I'd possibly drop the chain fist as power fist usually does the job, sve you 10 points


    Thousand Sons (9) Sorcerer with Doombolt, Personal Icon
    Rhino

    Thousand Sons (9) Sorcerer with Doombolt, Personal Icon
    Rhino

    Thousand Sons (9) Sorcerer with Doombolt, Personal Icon
    Rhino

    I think you've got a bit to much troops chioces espicallt since there expensive, I'd consider some fast attack instead raptors, 7 with 2 meltas and decent champion is about 250, save you about 50 points

    Predator Autocannon Lascannon Sponsons

    Predator Autocannon Lascannon Sponsons

    Predator Autocannon Lascannon Sponsons

    Like Ice_Cube I think 3 preds is a bit much espically if you put in the raptors with 2 meltas, I'd lose one and with the saved points get a lord to go with the raptors. I think the idea of losing a squad of K-sons and a pred to give you a good CC unit will much improve your list by giving you a bit of variety to keep oppenents on there toes, rather then having the same units. Hope this helps and if you decide to make changes be sure to tell me,

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    Ohhhh thank you guys so much, you got no idea how much that helps!! 0:
    Anyways, heres a revised list taking in both of your advice:

    HQ

    Daemon Prince

    Wings
    Warp Time
    Mark of Tzeentch
    = 175 points

    Chaos Lord
    Pair of Lightning Claws
    Meltabombs
    Jump Pack
    Personal Icon
    = 145 points

    ELITES

    Terminator Squad (4)
    4x Combi Plasma
    1x Powerfist
    = 150 points

    Terminator Squad (4)
    4x Combi Plasma
    1x Powerfist
    = 150 points

    TROOPS

    Thousand Sons (9)
    Sorcerer with Doombolt, Personal Icon
    Rhino
    = 294

    Thousand Sons (9)
    Sorcerer with Doombolt, Personal Icon
    Rhino
    = 294

    FAST ATTACK

    Raptor Squad (10)
    Champion with Powerfist
    2x Meltaguns
    = 260 points


    HEAVY SUPPORT

    Predator
    Autocannon
    Lascannon Sponsons
    = 130 points

    Defiler
    Close Combat Weapons
    = 150 points


    TOTAL = 1742
    TOTAL MODELS = 42 including tanks

    What do you guys think now?
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    hi

    I like the new list a lot, I think you do need 2 preds though, as you don't have that much long range AT,

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    not bad list but defilers work much better in pairs rather on their own, but you can get away with one as it still does the job would prob be to hard to fit 2 defilers in your list anyways. im not to keen on 2 lords though as it takes major chunks out of your points you can spend but i spose would really help the raptors. but would you prefer either a defiler, predator or the lord? either option is a really good one, personally i would like another vehicle in the list to help draw away from those rhinos," im just really am very protective of my thousand sons squads thats just my opinion". maybe you could drop the prince you might not like that idea but it would give you plenty of points to play with then and really help bolster the list. what can a lord do that a demon prince cant? well id prefer a sorcerer they are much improved in the new dex and are just monsters, it would really help the theme of your army to have a sorcerer also. give the sorcerer i told you in the other post ago and see what you think, yes its expensive but thats all you need for your hq IMO he can really help in all areas of your army including the raptors as he can keep up with them, he IMO would add great versitility to your army.

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    i think you should try and add bolt of change to some of your sorcs, since it would give you some real stopping power after your thousand sons bolters went off. or could be useful for hitting the rear armor of a troublesome tank.

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    seems like a nice list mate just have a quastipon do you guys really feel the added points for the terminator's is worht it I mean our normale troop coise has just about the same armour abilities and is loads cheaper. have you found that they are really thet much more effective??
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    well for 2 squads of termies you can get 1 sqaud TS, i do think the termies are much more effective (in this list) because there are a decent amount already but i wouldnt complain with more but the termies offer different battle field roles as they deep strike and can pretty much tear anything apart for that turn they deep strike they offer more variety, get the opponent thinking more and are just plain annoying. yea the TS have a nice weapon already but the termies just offer that bit more. but as ive said before id prefer the meltas over plasma in this list as it offers more anti tank capabilitys and can be used as a real counter attack unit.

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    I like this list a bit more than the first - I think it's more colorful than the first but needs a little work.

    First of all, I don't think it's really worth taking MoT on the Prince if you're only giving him one psychic power, particularly because Warptime works so well with one of the three shooting powers. I'd either drop the Mark or find points to give him a second power.

    Secondly, I don't like the Lord at all. He's not bad, but I think for the points, it'd be better to add a second defiler (as has been suggested). I'd drop him, drop both the personal Icons from the TS squads. That should leave you with 163 more points. I'd add a defiler and then add Doombolts to the DP.

    Alternately, you could add a second predator for 130 then add Winds of Chaos to the DP. Normally, like has been said, Defiler's work best in pairs, but I think you have enough targets to keep your opponent's big guns busy and one will work fine.

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