going to go to my first 40k gt (among other tournies) this year and wondering if anyone has opnions on any of these lists? I can field pretty much anything in a chaos army but really need to come to some conclusion soon so I can start painting it.

I want these to be a competitive as possible... Which one do you guys prefer?

List 1:

HQ

Demon Prince, MoS, Lash, Wings

Demon Prince, MoT, Doombolt, Warptime

Troops

8 Berserkers, Rhino

8 Plague Marines, 2 Plasmas

8 Plague Marines, 2 Meltas, Ac w/ Fist, Rhino

Fast

6 Raptors, MoK, 2 Meltas

Heavy

7 Havoks with 4 MLs

7 Havoks with 4 HBs

2 Obliterators

Basic plan here is to flank with the rhinos and use them (after turn 1-2 depending on AT as mobile walls.

Army 2

HQ

Demon Prince, MoS, Lash, Wings

Troops

10 Berserkers, ac w/ P. Weap. (Landraider as heavy spt is transport - rarrgh)

8 Plague Marines, 2 Plasmas, Rhino

10 CSM, IoS, Rhino, 2 Plasmas, ac w/ Fist

Fast

6 Raptors, 2 Meltas, MoK (or maybe MoS)

Heavy

Predator with Autocannon and HB Sponsoons (or maybe another vindicator instead

Landraider

Vindicator


Both list are very tight points wise, hence having to drop champs and stuff in some situations.

So, which do people think would do better considering some of the new rules which make LRs even more secure transpots (no glancing kills in 1 shot etc)?

CHeers