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I've just gotten into 40k (I played WFB when I was younger). I bought the assult on black reach set to start out, but now I want to build a CSM army, with intentions of converting the SM. I bought the CSM codex a couple weeks ago and have a start on an army list.
Demon Prince + MoS + Lash = 155pts
9*CSM + A Champ w/ power fist + IoK + 2 meltas + rhino = 275pts
9*khorne berserkers + skull champ w/ power weapon + rhino = 275pts
4*terminators + 4 combi plasmas = 140 Pts
1 defiler + 2 DCCW = 150pts
Total = 995pts
My buddy that is starting out with me is collecting necrons and so far I know he bought the battle box and a lord.
We're both fairly competitive so I'd like something oriented towards that.
The only thing from that list I don't want to scrap is the termi unit, I'd like to keep a termi unit of between 3-5 guys. Other than that chop up anything that doesn't fit in.
I'm posting this on my phone at the moment so I appologize if this is a mess. I'll fix it up later.
Right, this seems a fair list. But I could drop the IoK on the CSM for an icon of chaos undivided. This saves you 20 points, allowing you to add a powerfist to the termie squad.
When you up to 1,500 points, you will need to watch up for if your opponent purchases a monolith. These are difficult to destroy, and so you have two options.
1) Take obliterators/predators with lascannons, fire away!
2) Ignore it, phase them out.
Of these, two seems the better option. our next purchases should be another squad of CSM in rhino, and another defiler, and then perhaps an obliterator or two, as plasma cannons are great against Necrons.
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When I upgrade to a 1500 of army, would a vindicator instead of a 2nd defiler be a viable option? I'm thinking I might get more variety that way.
I'm not that clear on the pros and cons of the two heavy units truthfully.
The vindicator is really only good if you take 2 of them, yeah, the weapon is impressive, but as it tries to get into range to actualy USE it, it usualy gets popped, so, a 2nd gives it a better chance of getting into range.
If you don't want a 2nd defiler, do a predator with autocannon turret and lascannon sponsons.
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Ido agree with Riptor. Drop IoK for GoC.
The Vindicator is good but as Riptor said you need to get the range in for the Vindicator to work, but when it does work its soooooooo nice lol.
Terminators are nice, they draw alot of fire power away from your troops so while the necrons are trying to take them out your marines can head for objectives.
I must Defilers as its ok in combat but Str8 ap3 battle cannon, no necron is getting up from the battle cannon. Plus if gauss weapons get their glancing hit on you its minus 2 on the table and most results are crew stunned which the wont even affect the Defiler. I would take 2 Defilers or a unit of 2 Oblits, so many great weapons and cause so much havoc for your opponents. If growing your list never forget basic CSM. There great with a champ and IoGC. those boys are running no where and cheap compared to other troop choices.
Hope it helps
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You guys have been very helpful.
So strategy wise do I want to roll my tanks forward using them as cover for my DP and then deep strike with my termies or am I better to deploy my termies to take the spot light off my other guys?
I figure with my defiler I want to throw pie plates down on their warriors and follow up as back up to my troops. What should my terminators be targeting? Also am I able to shoot my battle cannon and move my defiler in the same turn?
Last edited by Funkymankevx; February 11th, 2009 at 07:48. Reason: Grammer
Your squad of chaos space marines is illegal, you need a squad of 10 to take 2 special weapons. Otherwise it's solid.
I thought the aspiring champion would count as the tenth person.
yeah, you're right, i missed that plus sign.