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    1500pt Daemonzilla Army Attempt

    I’m a Tzzentch Deamon Player and a Daemonzilla army keeps tempting me, so I thought I’d write out a list and see what you lot would make of it.

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    333 – Fateweaver

    TROOPS
    145 – 8 Plaguebearers with Icon
    120 – 8 Plaguebearers
    120 – 8 Plaguebearers
    120 – 8 Plaguebearers

    HEAVY SUPPORT
    220 - Daemon Prince:
    Unholy Might, Iron Hide, Wings and Mark Of Nurgle
    220 - Daemon Prince: Unholy Might, Iron Hide, Wings and Mark Of Nurgle
    220 - Daemon Prince: Unholy Might, Iron Hide, Wings and Mark Of Nurgle

    Total Pts: 1498
    Total No: 32 (4)
    Total Kill Pts: 8


    1st Wave: Fateweaver and the 3 Daemon Princes.
    2nd Wave: Plaguebearers Squads.

    I’m currently a Tzzentch player so I felt the Fateweaver was a good choice to support the princes on their rampages, add some Plaguebearers for some solid objective holders and you’ve got a good list setup. Though it could go badly if a 1 or 2 is rolled for the waves. Any suggestions for improvement would be welcome?

    What do you think? Would it be worth building?


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    333 – Fateweaver
    270-Bloodthirster-unholy might

    TROOPS
    75– 5 Plaguebearers
    75– 5 Plaguebearers
    75– 5 Plaguebearers

    Fast Attack
    48- 3 Screamers

    HEAVY SUPPORT
    205 - Daemon Prince: DG, Wings and Mark Of T-unholy might
    205 - Daemon Prince: DG, Wings and Mark Of T-unholy might
    205 - Daemon Prince: DG, Wings and Mark Of T-unholy might

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    Icon is not needed. Plaguebearers are good for holding objectives and at 1500 15 should be good enough and 5 flying MCs is much better. The idea being daemonzilla might as well take all 5. This gives your intial drop some shots to hit some targets and takes advantage of the reroll saves with demonprinces of T. Could even drop the DG and get more PBs in the squads. I would take the 4++ over T6 when you have Kairos. The sreamers are just there so you can take 5 in your first wave and have the ability to contest and kill vehicles. Its also more Tzeentch this way. If you gonna take units to bulk up your first wave might as well do it well with only 273 points of your 1500 in second wave. This is what nidzilla wishes it could have. Dropping 5 flying MCs in your face.

    1st Wave: Kairos/Bloodthirster/DP/DP/DP
    2nd Wave: PB/PB/PB/Screamers

    9 kill points
    Last edited by Tyrius; June 3rd, 2009 at 04:05.
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    Here is the updated list following suggestions given.

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    290 – Lord Of Change:
    We Are Legion
    110 – Epidemius (With the 8 Plaguebearers)

    TROOPS
    120 – 8 Plaguebearers
    105 – 7 Plaguebearers
    105 – 7 Plaguebearers
    105 – 7 Plaguebearers

    HEAVY SUPPORT
    220 - Daemon Prince:
    Unholy Might, Iron Hide, Wings and Mark Of Nurgle
    220 - Daemon Prince: Unholy Might, Iron Hide, Wings and Mark Of Nurgle
    220 - Daemon Prince: Unholy Might, Iron Hide, Wings and Mark Of Nurgle

    Total Pts: 1495
    Total No: 30 (4)
    Total Kill Pts: 9

    1st Wave:
    Lord Of Change and the 3 Daemon Princes.
    2nd Wave: Epidemius & Plaguebearers Squads.

    I hope it's an improvement?

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    Who's suggestions this list is much worse then the first one. Epidemius is not good and only really good if you are all Nurgle and even then is a gimmick that once found out can easily be dealt with. I dunno who suggested this to you but they are very wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrius View Post
    Who's suggestions this list is much worse then the first one. Epidemius is not good and only really good if you are all Nurgle and even then is a gimmick that once found out can easily be dealt with. I dunno who suggested this to you but they are very wrong.
    Not really the Princes count as Nurgle and they'll likely rack up kills fast and if he has a large enough squad of plaguebearers protecting him he won't be that easily killed, he can prove to be very effective.

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    but what is he giving your army. The demon princes already wound most things on 2s, the plaguebearers benefit the least from the tally. I am telling unless you go full nurgle the tallyman is not worth it and hardly worth it in a pure nurgle force. I have had him hide in a squad of 20 plaguebearers and be killed 8 is not nearly as hard to down and when he is dead your army loses whatever tally they had. He also has to be out when you get kills and only nurgle units will add to it. If you want a gimmick army with the tallyman just do:

    Epidemius
    Herald w/breath
    Herald w/breath
    Herald w/breath

    Some beasts of N usually small units to up your unit count

    20 PB
    10 PB
    10 PB
    6 Nurglings
    6 Nurglings

    DP with wings/breath/MoN/IH
    DP with wings/breath/MoN/IH
    DP with wings/breath/MoN/IH


    Basically you just drop Epidemius and 3 heralds and 3 Dps first wave and wrack the tally to max then nurglings and PB/beasts come out and kill stuff.

    What you are proposing is 2 different armies mixed together. I don't see it working out well. If you are set on doing it by all means go for it.

    Daemonzilla is not epidemius

    My first demon army is pure nurgle and once people figure out that epidemius is the army they will put everything into killing his unit.
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    Thing is I'm not going for a themed army here, I after putting down 4 T6 Winged Monsterous Creatures down on the board. :evilgrin:

    In fact, I think 5 would be even better! Hows this list?

    HQ
    250 – Lord Of Change
    250 – Bloodthirster

    TROOPS
    105 – 7 Plaguebearers
    105 – 7 Plaguebearers
    105 – 7 Plaguebearers

    HEAVY SUPPORT
    220 - Daemon Prince:
    Unholy Might, Iron Hide, Wings and Mark Of Nurgle
    220 - Daemon Prince: Unholy Might, Iron Hide, Wings and Mark Of Nurgle
    220 - Daemon Prince: Unholy Might, Iron Hide, Wings and Mark Of Nurgle

    Total Pts: 1475
    Total No: 21 (5)
    Total Kill Pts: 8


    I've still got 25pts left to spend on either: an extra PB, upgrades for one of the two GD or the cloud of files upgrade for the princes to allow them to charge into cover and get to strike first? Also I know two Bloodthirsters would be better but I've already got a LOC model so might as well use him.

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    Yeah, Tyrius pretty much has this covered

    Drop a couple PBs to get noxious touch on your DPs. Blessing and Might would also be handy on the Bloodthirster, especially if you run afoul of Land Raiders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proiteus View Post
    Thing is I'm not going for a themed army here, I after putting down 4 T6 Winged Monsterous Creatures down on the board. :evilgrin:

    In fact, I think 5 would be even better! Hows this list?

    HQ
    250 – Lord Of Change
    250 – Bloodthirster

    TROOPS
    105 – 7 Plaguebearers
    105 – 7 Plaguebearers
    105 – 7 Plaguebearers

    HEAVY SUPPORT
    220 - Daemon Prince:
    Unholy Might, Iron Hide, Wings and Mark Of Nurgle
    220 - Daemon Prince: Unholy Might, Iron Hide, Wings and Mark Of Nurgle
    220 - Daemon Prince: Unholy Might, Iron Hide, Wings and Mark Of Nurgle

    Total Pts: 1475
    Total No: 21 (5)
    Total Kill Pts: 8


    I've still got 25pts left to spend on either: an extra PB, upgrades for one of the two GD or the cloud of files upgrade for the princes to allow them to charge into cover and get to strike first? Also I know two Bloodthirsters would be better but I've already got a LOC model so might as well use him.
    I would go with 2 bloodthirsters over LOC. Fateweaver over either one just to add the survivability to the rest of the army. So either get the 83 points more to get the Fateweaver over LoC or swap a LoC for a bloodthirster.


    HQ
    270 – Bloodthirster-Unholy Might
    270 – Bloodthirster-Unholy Might

    TROOPS
    75 – 5 Plaguebearers
    75 – 5 Plaguebearers
    75 – 5 Plaguebearers
    75 – 5 Plaguebearers

    HEAVY SUPPORT
    220 - Daemon Prince:
    Iron Hide,Unholy might, Wings and Mark Of Nurgle
    220 - Daemon Prince: Iron Hide,Unholy might, Wings and Mark Of Nurgle
    220 - Daemon Prince: Iron Hide,Unholy might, Wings and Mark Of Nurgle

    1500
    Gives you 9 KPs and lets you take all 5 MCs in 1 wave.
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    Here is the list I've settled on, following advice given to me on forums...

    HQ
    290 – Lord Of Change:
    We Are Legion
    (Before anyone says, yes I know a second Bloodthirster would be the best choice but I don't have enough cash for 5 MCs...yet. Besides I think having at least 1 powerful ranged weapon will be good thing, allowing me to shoot down fast moving transports so the princes can help themsleves to the delicious morsels insides, without having to destroy the vehcile rolling 6s to hit it)

    250 – Bloodthirster
    (No doubts about him being in the list)

    TROOPS
    105 – 7 Plaguebearers
    105 – 7 Plaguebearers
    105 – 7 Plaguebearers

    (I'm wondering on if I should break these down into 4 squads of 5 so that I can deploy all 5 MCs in the first wave, problem is will 5 plaguebearers be strong enough to hold an objective?)

    HEAVY SUPPORT
    215 - Daemon Prince: Iron Hide, Wings, Mark Of Nurgle, Cloud Of Flies & Noxious Touch
    215 - Daemon Prince: Iron Hide, Wings, Mark Of Nurgle, Cloud Of Flies & Noxious Touch
    215 - Daemon Prince: Iron Hide, Wings, Mark Of Nurgle, Cloud Of Flies & Noxious Touch
    (Thanks to an excellent suggestion off another forum I've given all the princes Noxious touch freeing up 30pts and allowing me to give them cloud of files to allow them to charge into difficult terrain without worry. Any Land Raiders or monoliths can be handled by the Bloodthirster)

    Total Pts: 1500
    Total No: 21 (5)
    Total Kill Pts: 8

    So what are your final thoughts on the list, will it be effective against most armies? Also what do you think I should do about the plaguebearer squads?

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