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We have a store wide RTT here in January, Ive been playing some test games with the list I have. So far its 6-1-1. So not to bad overall, just need some tweeking on it, as with my nids Im used to tableing the other guy by top of 4 at the latest, and the CSM is taking a bit longer than that. Heres the list, keep in mind that it is RTT
HQ-Daemon Prine-Mark of Tzeentch, Wind of Chaos and Warp Time
Elites-2 Squads of Possessed, with Mark of Tzeentch in a Rhino with a Havoc Launcher and Dozer Blade
Troops-2 Squads of Plague Marines with 2 Plasma Guns, a Champion with Plasma Pistol and Power Fist, Im still up in the air on wether or not I want to give him a Combi-Plasma or Melta, Both Squads in Rhinos, kitted out the same as the Possessed Rhinos
Heavy-Predator with Twin-Linked Lascannon, 2 Lascannon sponsons, Havoc Launcher and Extra Armor
2 Squads of 1 Obliterator
So let me know any pros/cons to the list corrective critisism welcomed, thank you.
HQ: Very nice and rather expensive. Some prefer to drop wind for doombolt for a cheaper alternative.
Elites: I really don't rate possessed for tournament play. If you get power weapons or rending thats great but terminators would have been better. if you get fnp then PMs would have been better etc. I would drop them for a squad of Tzeentch terminators and another PM squad.
Troops: Good but you will need more than 2 troop choices in a 2000 point list. Drop the plasma pistol for a combiplasma. If you get more PMs give them meltas.
Heavy: Havoc launcer on an antitank pred is worthless. I would go for 2x AC/2LC preds over this. Merge the oblits and take a unit icon in a PM squad to teleport them if you need to.
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You really need more then 2 troops in a 2000 point list. I would recommend 4. That is if you play the scenarios from the rule book, if your store plays with victory points your OK.
Possessed are not really good in a tournament list, the models look nice, they have the potential to be good but if you do not roll wht you need, their points are wasted. Terminators are only a few points more but at least they have power weapons and a 2+ save for sure.
Havoc launchers are a waste of points in my opinion especillay on a lascannon pred. If you drop all havoc launchers and the dozer blades you have the points to fit 2 predators with autocannon turret and lascannon sponson instead of the 1 you have.
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ok I took both of yalls advice into consideration, I dropped the possessed for a 10 man unit of terminators, they have the mark of tzeentch, a heavy flamer, reaper autocannon, 2 combi flamers, 2 melta and 2 plasma, 8 with power fists and 2 with lightning claws, just for a lil variation. I threw in another unit of plague marines with multi meltas the champion has a plasma pistol and a combi melta. The PMs also have a personal icon for the Terminators and all are in a rhino. The DP has wings, the mark of tzeentch, doombolt and warp time. And a predator with TL Las and sponson las. When I go up to the shop today Ill try to get some games in with it and let yall know how well it worked. Thanks again.
ok I took both of yalls advice into consideration, I dropped the possessed for a 10 man unit of terminators, they have the mark of tzeentch, a heavy flamer, reaper autocannon, 2 combi flamers, 2 melta and 2 plasma, 8 with power fists and 2 with lightning claws, just for a lil variation.
OK, first thing you want to do is get rid of 8 powerfists....you just dont need them...id keep two and use those points and have all combie wepons for my termies. Secound, the lighting claws can go as well. this squad costs way to much as is...and will get hurt bad if you missplace it. and reeper auto cannons really are no good, they are way to expensive. with that amount of savings you could add a few termies and maybe do two squads of 7 if you can swing the points. This will; allow you to maximize ther efficentze and make them live longer. I love mark of tzeentch...good choice.
I threw in another unit of plague marines with multi meltas the champion has a plasma pistol and a combi melta.The PMs also have a personal icon for the Terminators and all are in a rhino
Ok good squad...but you need to follow the army builder guidlines...how many did you buy? also...your wasting points with aplasma pistol and a combie wepon...save the points and use the combie wepon. Use the rest of the points twords a rhino or give it a combie melta or flamer. We need the points as well please so we know what your doing with them
. The DP has the mark of tzeentch, doombolt and warp time and wings
good choice...i like these guys...they are nasty, but you must have wings or they get shot to heck.
And a predator with TL Las and sponson las.
Always have more then one tank...if not they get poped and then a waste of points.
so post the list and points ...other wise its sounds good
Ok the list, before your recomendations, as I would like to get a few test games in with it is
HQ-DP Mark of Tzeentch, wings, Doombolt and Warp Time-185 pts
elite-10 Terminators, Mark of Tzeentch, 8 PF, 2 LC 2 of each combi flamers, meltas and plasmas a heavy flamer and auto cannon-495 (thinkin about if nothin else droppin the auto cannon 4 another heavy flamer as up here there are alot of horde armies.)
Troops-2 squads of PM with 2 plasma guns, a champion with power fist, plasma pistol and combi plasma in a rhino with a Havoc Launcher and Dozer Blade. A second squad of PMs same rhino but with 2 meltas champion with PF, Plasma Pistol and combi melta. All 3 Units of PMs have a personal Icon so the termies wont scatter. Cost is 385 for each of the plasma units and 375 for the melta unit.
Heavy-Im still debating on whether or not to take 2 Obliterators or a predator with trip las cannons. The obliterators are 150 for 2 and the predator is 165.
Total with the pred is 1990.