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    Khorne Problems

    So Far I have This,

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    Demon Prince w/ MoK, Wings

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    5 Termis w/ 5 Combi Plasma and 2 Powerfists

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    7 CSM w/ Melta, IoK, Rhino, Asp Champ w/ PF

    7 CSM w/ Melta, IoK, Rhino, Asp Champ w/ PF

    7 Zerkers w/ Rhino, Skull Champ w/ PF & Personal Icon

    7 Zerkers w/ Rhino, Skull Champ w/ PF & Personal Icon

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    2 Preds w/ Heavy Bolter Sponsors or drop a termi, get LasCannon Sponsors if playing Mech

    Defiler w/ DCCW in place of flamer

    Roughly 1750pts

    Looking for any input or other info to make this force more awesome. Have had good luck against horde style armies, but got killed by some blood angels last week. Help me out if you have any comments.

    Thanks!


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    I'd say drop the Preds for a Defiler, helps with Marines and still great against hordes. Also put Combi-Meltas on those Rhinos, makes them dangerous after dropping off their cargo. Combos very well with you Plasma Termies as well.
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    Prince I feel like I have better luck with the 2 preds than the defiler, everyone targets the defilers big time. Seems like I only get 1-2 Turns before it's long gone. Combis on the Rhinos are a good idea, but i'd need to take something out with that +40 points.

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    Are your Predators living at the expense of your Rhinos? Defilers certainly aren't rock solid units, they have medium armor but most people find them scarier than a Predator and not as daunting to damage because of AV12 instead of 13.

    I was talking mostly from a distraction point of view. You have great Troops and they will be winning the games at short range and in CC. If your Rhinos usually make it intact, keep your army as is.

    I'd probably drop the two Marks of Khorne, +1 attack in non-CC specialists isn't worth it. Grab Combi-Meltas on the Champs with your extra 20 points. Than you have dedicated tank busters so the Zerkers can do their job.
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    I'd try to find some way to increase the squad sizes of your CSMs to 10 and add another meltagun, they work much better. I'd also have to agree with The Prince on the Defiler issue, grab another one as they do tons of damage to MEQs and are high prioriy targets to leave your troops under the radar.
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    Again - another defiler. With 1 it can be silenced fast. With 2 it'll be much harder to shut them down and their damage output far exceeds those of predators. That's why preds are surviving and appear to do more since they're being ignored.

    When that surviving defiler hits them with battlecannons blasts and in CC, you'll be tempted to take 3
    Also if you want the MoK, take a full 10 man squad to make the mark worth every point and in order to take 2 specials.

    Alternatively in the 3rd heavy slot, run a naked pred at the spearhead of the rhino rush so the front armor the enemy faces is 13 or 11 with a cover save. This naked pred will allow some points to be used to fill out CSM squads and is still useful to pop low armor and tank shock units as you drive into them to assault.

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    I really don't think he needs to fill units out, the extra Melta is nice but a Combi on the Champ gets it done, as well as one on the Rhino. I'd rather have 4 scoring units than 3, they're pretty durable and have protection.

    Naked Pred is a so so idea, you have to give it a turret and to stay in front of a Rhino or two it would have to move 12" so it's largely wasted points. I'd rather have an actual distraction and let my opponent make bad calls. 1 DP and 2 Defilers is a lot more threatening than 4 Rhinos, which will have Smoke at least once and occasional cover, terrain allowing. Good players will KNOW to kill the Rhinos, but vehicles don't automatically just die.
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    I agree with what ghost of rage said about the CSM. They work best that way. Otherwise you could simply add some plagues instead of the ordinary csm with 2 meltas.
    What is more, I think that you should add a 2nd defiler and 2 obliterators, instead of the predators.
    If you reach the point limit, just throw some termies.

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    SO How about

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    Demon Prince w/ MoK, Wings

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    Terms x5 w/ Combi Plasma x5 and PF x2

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    CSM x9 w/ IoK, Melta x2, Rhino w/ CombiMelta and Asp Champ w/ PF

    CSM x9 w/ IoK, Melta x2, Rhino w/ CombiMelta and Asp Champ w/ PF

    Zerkers x7 in Rhino w/ CombiMelta and Skull Champ w/ PF, Personal Icon

    Zerkers x7 in Rhino w/ CombiMelta and Skull Champ w/ PF, Personal Icon

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    Defiler x2 both with Havoc Launcher



    Adding 2 defilers is $$$$ anyone know a good place to find them for cheap? Or Know A good Alternative Model that can be converted to a Defiler?
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    How about what?
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