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    Thousand Sons Cult Army 1000 and 1500 points

    Woohoo~ After a 3 year hiatus I finally got back into 40k~ I've always wanted to make a 1k sons army, and I heard that Ahriman was one of the more powerful special characters, so this is what I decided to go with. I'm hoping to make an infantry-heavy, but still competitive list.

    1000 points Thousand Sons:

    HQ:

    Ahriman - 250pts

    Troops:

    Thousand Sons (8 Rubrics and 1 Sorceror) - Doombolt, MeltaBombs - 259 points
    Thousand Sons (7 Rubrics and 1 Sorceror) - Doombolt, Rhino, MeltaBombs - 271 points

    Heavy Support:

    Land Raider - 220 points

    Due to 1K sons being points heavy, the 1000 points list is basically the bare minimum plus a really ridiculous vehicle for such a point cost (in this case, a land Raider). The entire Army deploys in transports and basically drives up, deploys, and fire at max range (thanks to Slow and Purposeful). The Land Raider will provide Fire Support against armoured targets, and if I happen to face another Land Raider, The Sorcerors will deal with that using the Melta Bombs. I'm really hoping Ahriman will make his points back, or at least cripple the enemy with his powers, because he's the most points heavy one.

    1500 point army:

    HQ:

    Ahriman - 250pts

    Troops:

    Thousand Sons (8 Rubrics and 1 Sorceror) - Doombolt, MeltaBombs - 259 points
    Thousand Sons (8 Rubrics and 1 Sorceror) - Doombolt, MeltaBombs - 259 points
    Thousand Sons (8 Rubrics and 1 Sorceror) - Doombolt, Rhino - 289 points

    Heavy Support:

    Land Raider - 220 points
    Land Raider - 220 points

    1497 points

    Yeah I went a little crazy with this list. Almost everything is riding in Raiders, except for one lone squad. Two Land Raiders is overkill to compensate for the lack of infantry bodies. That and I just love my raiders. My Slaanesh List also uses two Raiders (I'll post it later after some tweeking, I dont wanna flood the forums with my own threads XD) so this will save money in the long run. I just need to make them look Faction-neutral, but that's for the modeling forum . Suggestions on how to make the 1000 point list more competitive is greatly needed, and if there's a better alternative to Raiders I'll gladly replace one or both. Thanks!

    EDIT: Didnt realise there was a Thread prefix. I'm posting both under one list cuz my friends and I often switch between 1000 and 1500 annhilation games. My friends hate objectives because one always likes to find a corner and camp in his transports while the other plays Necrons, which he doesnt like to move around due to the res-orb's tiny range.

    Last edited by MechaEmperor7000; July 24th, 2010 at 23:07. Reason: minor explaination for double points listed

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    I'm not sure if this list can really win. There is no serious anti-tank and I think you will have big problems against eldar andimperial guard. What is more, Thousand Sons are difficult to die, due to their 4+ invu save, but this is not going to save them against lots of attacks or power fists, such as orks and terminators.
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    Firstly, I'd like to say, drop the Land Raiders, they don't fit 1K Sons very well as they are assault vehicles and 1K Sons would like to shoot, not assault. So give them all Rhinos instead of Raiders. Secondly, I'd swap Arihman for a Daemon Prince with Mark of Tzeench, Wings, Warptime and Doombolt, you'll save some points and have a HQ that won't die as easily as Arhiman is not immune to Instant Death. So now, in your 1000 pts list I've saved to 250 pts, and in your 1500 pts list I've saved you 435 pts, let's see what we can add in!

    In your 1000 pts list, I'd add in 2 Preds with sponson Lascannons each costing 130 pts (to get the extra 10 pts drop the Meltabombs) now you have some anti-tank and some armor to help deviate some attention from your Rhinos.

    In your 1500 pts list, so you don't have to go out and get a ton of new models, keep the Preds, then add in either a Defiler or 2 Oblits, drop the Meltabombs again along with Doombolt on 2 of your Aspiring Sorcs and give them Warptime, to help them with combat.

    Hope this helps!
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    well, maybe I should drop Ahriman for a "count as" normal Sorceror with 2 Psychic Powers? That way I can get back about 100 points and combine that with the cost of the Land Raider to buy something strong, like perhaps two Dreads (fitting with the whole "Egyptian Dead" theme) which can round out my forces a bit.

    EDIT: The second post came in after I had already made this one >_<. I'm kinda iffy on the Winged Prince with Doombolt. Last time I took a prince exactly like that, and my opponent shot every single pellet he had at it. It was not fun to see my prince go down in one round of shooting. However, the two Preds sound good. The Sons will likely slowly advance so the enemy will have to choose between them or the preds, so it gives them a bit of survivability.

    On the 1500 point list, I kinda do wanna put in as much Sons as possible, if only for the "oh crap" factor that my opponent will get when he realises everything has AP3. I'll consider the Defiler as a sort of "last resort" CC specialist and Shell lobber to protect my lines, but Obliterators have never served me well.

    EDIT: Here are two new lists I made based on the comments above

    Thousand Sons Army (1000):

    HQ:

    Chaos Sorceror - Mark of Tzeentch, Doombolt - 140

    Elites:

    Troops:

    Thousand Sons (10 Rubrics + 1 Sorceror) - Doombolt - 300
    Thousand Sons (10 Rubrics + 1 Sorceror) - Doombolt - 300

    Heavy Support:

    Predator - Lascannon Sponson, Extra Armor - 145
    Predator - Heavy Bolter Sponson , Extra Armor - 115

    Total: - 1000

    Thousand Sons Army (1500):

    HQ:

    Ahriman - 250

    Elites:

    Troops:

    Thousand Sons (8 Rubrics + 1 Sorceror) - Doombolt, Rhino - 289
    Thousand Sons (8 Rubrics + 1 Sorceror) - Doombolt, Rhino - 289
    Thousand Sons (8 Rubrics + 1 Sorceror) - Doombolt, Rhino - 289

    Heavy Support:

    Predator - Lascannon Sponson - 130
    Predator - Heavy Bolter Sponson - 100
    Chaos Defiler - 2 Close Combat Weapons - 150

    Total: - 1497

    The thing about these list is, I only need to buy the common elements for the 1000 points army (before I basically had to buy new equipment for each lists) so I kinda like it. I chose to give one Predator a set of Bolters to address Swarm problems (namely, Nids and guards). The Rhinos provide some cover and mobility, as well as giving me some needed bolter fire to cover my Sons' asses. The Defiler's Battle Cannon should cover swarms neatly, and CC is handled by it and Ahriman (Warptime + Wind of Chaos + Force Weapon = GG).
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    That's what your DP is for. If he absorbs a while round of shooting, he has done his job. If he gets into melee, icing on the cake. For the points, and the customization, the DP is the best HQ choice we have. Hands down.

    In 1000 points, you need to shave those squads and give them armor. I'll tell you turn one if they're not in something, some asshat is gonna roll up and kill you. 8+1 in a rhino would be better, imo. for 1000, i like the predators, except i'd like to see las sponsons on the other as well. Your army really doesn't have much in the way of AT, and two lasses won't cut it.

    In 1500 points, I say go 7+1 for all squads, lascannon sponsons on that other predator, and instead of the defiler possibly obliterators. I personally like the idea of the defiler more in this army, but it's pretty un-cultish.

    Also, DP's. Everywhere. Ahriman is just too fragile, and not all that great.

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    But the Thousand Sons Abhor Mutation, which is what the Oblities are =x. On the 1000 point list, shaving 2 Rubric and the Extra Armour upgrades gives me enough points to give both squads a Rhino. Droping a third Rubric can let me upgrade those HBs to LCs.

    On the Subject of Ahriman, I just really want to use him, I always loved the model and the rules. That, and the new DP has basically failed me at doing everything it was suppose to do (kill Necron Warriors in Close combat, soak up wounds, stall some unit with CC). The Loss of T6 and 2+ save really made it crappy =(

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    I kinda like the dual LR list. I would probably switch out Arhiman for a Tzeetch sorcerer, drop a couple Rubrics and swap the Rhino for a 3rd LR. I'd love to see the look on an opponent's place when you drop 3 LRs. Preferably add a combi-melta to each of them. Then add in Tzeetch Termies and a 4th LR to hit 2k. Then Abbadon for 2250. If you switched Abbadon for a Tzeetch terminator lord with daemon weapon you would be able to fit in another unit of termies in a 5th LR for 2.5k.

    May not be extremely effective, but it certainly would be fun.

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    holding out the LRs for my Emperor's Children list, where they will actually help out the assaulting marines ^^

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