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    Friendly 1500 Black Legion. Opinions!

    I´m going to start a Chaos army, and this list is built around models I already have and the CSM Megaforce I´m going to buy:

    HQ

    - Chaos Sorcerer. 75 points.
    *Doombolt.
    *Mark of Chaos Undivided.

    - Bloodthirster. 205 points.

    ELITE

    - 8 Berserkers of Khorne. Includes Aspiring Champion. 165 points.

    TROOPS

    - 6 Black Legion CSM. 141 points
    *Aspiring Champion w/ Powerfist
    *Heavy Bolter
    *Mark of Chaos Undivided
    *Infiltrate

    - 6 Black Legion CSM. 141 points
    *Aspiring Champion w/ Powerfist
    *Heavy Bolter
    *Mark of Chaos Undivided
    *Infiltrate

    - 8 Black Legion CSM. 163 points
    *Aspiring Champion w/ Powerfist
    *Heavy Bolter
    *Meltagun
    *Mark of Chaos Undivided

    - Chaos Rhino. 50 points.

    HEAVY SUPPORT

    - 5 Havocs. 180 points.
    *4 Missile launchers
    *Tank hunters
    *Infiltrate

    - Predator. 175 points.
    *Twin-linked lascannons
    *2 Lascannons
    *Mutated Hull

    - Defiler. 205 points.
    *Indirect Fire
    *Mutated Hull


    TOTAL 1502 points.


    Comments needed Oh and please don´t start crying "Drop the Bloodthirster!", I just love the model >) The previous one, not the doggy face btw.

    Last edited by Berraco; November 17th, 2005 at 20:26.

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    First, welcome to the dark side
    Quote Originally Posted by Berraco
    - Chaos Sorcerer. 75 points.
    *Doombolt.
    *Mark of Chaos Undivided.
    Cheap H.Q., but why did you take it? What is his purpose in your army? If you just want to experiment with psi powers, then he will definitely be fun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Berraco
    - Bloodthirster. 205 points.
    You like this pup, so I won't comment, other than to say, it's good that people play what they like over what they think is the most competitive build. 40k is a game of fun...let's keep it that way. Oh, one more thing to add: Give the A.C. that he will possess daemonic chains. This really speeds up the chance of this pup coming in. Of course, if you don't want him in the early game, then nevermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Berraco
    - 8 Berserkers of Khorne. Includes Aspiring Champion. 165 points.
    Good start, but keep going. For +1/model give them chain ax. It's just silly not to do this, and it will help you against 3+ armies. Is this A.C. for the bloodthirster? If not, then give him a power fist. Every squad needs a way to hack through the enemy. Without a fist your entire elite troops can be hammered down by a dreadnought. Also, for speed give the squad a talisman of the burning blood (Khorne gift).


    Quote Originally Posted by Berraco
    - 6 Black Legion CSM. 141 points
    *Aspiring Champion w/ Powerfist
    *Heavy Bolter
    *Mark of Chaos Undivided
    *Infiltrate

    - 8 Black Legion CSM. 163 points
    *Aspiring Champion w/ Powerfist
    *Heavy Bolter
    *Meltagun
    *Mark of Chaos Undivided
    First squad: Why a bolter w/ a power fist? Is this squad c.c. or ranged? If you want a cheap ranged weapon, then take off the a.c., the fist, and infiltrate. If you want a c.c. squad, then increase the marines to 7-8, take two melta guns or plasma guns (melta is always a solid choice, though you already have good tank removal in your heavy choices).

    Second squad: Don't mix weapons. You have an anti-troop heavy weapon w/ an anti-vehicle assault weapon. Honestly, you would do well if you made all three squads w/ melta guns or plasma guns, 8x marines, fists, & infiltrate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Berraco
    - 5 Havocs. 180 points.
    *4 Missile launchers
    *Tank hunters
    *Infiltrate
    Simple & effective. What primary armies are you facing? If you see alot of heavy vehicles and marines, then this is a very good squad. If you see more medium/light vehicles (i.e., landspeeders), Nids, Eldar, orks, then auto-cannons w/ tank hunter would serve you much better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Berraco
    - Predator. 175 points.
    *Twin-linked lascannons
    *2 Lascannons
    *Mutated Hull
    Not bad, but it's overkill. Consider taking an auto-cannon hull to cheapen the vehicle. Personally, I prefer daemonic possession on my preds, because it seems to apply more often.

    Quote Originally Posted by Berraco
    - Defiler. 205 points.
    *Indirect Fire
    *Mutated Hull
    Eh, mundo expensive. Remove one of the upgrades, preferably mut hull. This pup should be behind something big to protect it.
    Last edited by Rabbit; November 17th, 2005 at 20:26.

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    Thanks for your kind comments.

    First of all, I´m not going to face 3+ armies by the moment. IG, Eldar, and maybe Orks and Tau. That´s why I didn´t add the Khornate axes nor special anti-Smurf stuff. And yes, the Berserker AC is the daemonvessel :tongue: The berserkers ride the Rhino. I expect them to move in the first turn 30 cms aided by the Rhino and in the next turn try to get the Bloodthirster out so it can fly against the enemy.

    CSM small squads are shooty, but I included the AC w/ Powerfist for 2 reasons: One, to be useful in case I decide they assault nearby enemy positions, and Two, for making the squad a little more challenging to some big bad assaulting nasties such as Wraithlords. There is a third one, I also love the powerfist CSM model

    And my Chaos Sorcerer is there for fluff reasons and to provide some fire to the unit he joins (the larger CSM squad). He´s a Lieuteniant of Abbadon himself, and since my other HQ is a greater daemon I wanted at least a Lieuteniant to lead the army, not some silly AC. And guess what? I love the Chaos sorcerer model.

    Following your wise words I´ve made some changes however:

    HQ

    - Chaos Sorcerer. 75 points.
    *Doombolt.
    *Mark of Chaos Undivided.

    - Bloodthirster. 205 points.

    ELITE

    - 8 Berserkers of Khorne. Includes Aspiring Champion. 165 points.

    - 1 Obliterator. 70 points.

    TROOPS

    - 6 Black Legion CSM. 141 points
    *Aspiring Champion w/ Powerfist
    *Heavy Bolter
    *Mark of Chaos Undivided
    *Infiltrate

    - 6 Black Legion CSM. 141 points
    *Aspiring Champion w/ Powerfist
    *Heavy Bolter
    *Mark of Chaos Undivided
    *Infiltrate

    - 8 Black Legion CSM. 153 points
    *Aspiring Champion w/ Powerfist
    *Heavy Bolter
    *Mark of Chaos Undivided

    - Chaos Rhino. 50 points.

    HEAVY SUPPORT

    - 5 Havocs. 180 points.
    *4 Missile launchers
    *Tank hunters
    *Infiltrate

    - Predator. 145 points.
    *Twin-linked autocannons
    *2 Lascannons
    *Daemonic Possesion

    - Defiler. 175 points.
    *Indirect Fire


    TOTAL 1500 points.

    Better now?
    Last edited by Berraco; November 18th, 2005 at 00:02.

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